Bluetooth at ct15e
- Thread starter Tobiasz
- Start date
Crazyraceguy
Member
- Joined
- Oct 16, 2015
- Messages
- 4,905
I don't think so. The CT15 is essentially stripped of the things that add cost. It has the same suction and that's about it.
I saw possible to buy bluetooth with remote for 100usd and add to extractor but wonder is this model support that? If I will go with mini instead of ct15 is it possible to change bottom part later to change it capacity ? 7-10liters seems small but price of mini is top of my limit at this time
NiteWalkerGR
Member
- Joined
- May 7, 2014
- Messages
- 192
You cannot add the festool bluetooth remote to the ct 15. The set you saw for $100 ($82 in the states) is for adding bluetooth to the ct 26, 36 or 48 extractors. The Mini (discontinued I think aside from in stock items) and Midi I only need the remote itself ($46 in the states).Tobiasz said:
If you get the Mini I'm pretty sure the bucket from the Midi I fits. Do factor in the cost of upgrades though; you may be better off just getting the Midi I from the start. That's the direction I went and am very happy with it.
One of the largest Festool merchants in the country no longer offers the mini (except for any leftover unit). Consumables like filters and bags are still available. I'm sure Festool will continue to repair/service minis until its spare parts are gone. I don't know if Festool has made or will make any announcements about when it'll no longer support the minis.
Tobiasz said:
I haven't looked into this in detail, does this product meet the needs?
https://www.fastcap.com/product/remote-control-vacuum?cat=3
Same here. The major price difference is between a CT15 and a MIDI. The CT15 costs almost half less, and remains the best choice for those who don't need BT (the hose garage and foot brake offer insignificant benefits as compared to the BT).
Frankly, if someone asks me, I'd recommend getting two CT15s over one MIDI, and placing one CT15 nearby where dust extraction is needed in lieu of using BT. Even the CT26 doesn't come with BT, and you need to pay extra if you want it.
Frankly, if someone asks me, I'd recommend getting two CT15s over one MIDI, and placing one CT15 nearby where dust extraction is needed in lieu of using BT. Even the CT26 doesn't come with BT, and you need to pay extra if you want it.
I purchased the "screen" (part #204759) for the mini and retrofitted it on the CT15 and it works and adds bluetooth support. The screen was $169.40 USD when I bought it back in April. It would save you ~$100 over just buying the midi, though it definitely voids the warranty.
Interestingly, I think the CT15 has the necessary hardware on the PCB to support bluetooth, it's just been "deactivated" via software. One of these days I want to see if I can reverse engineer it...yes, I want to hack a vacuum, hah!
Interestingly, I think the CT15 has the necessary hardware on the PCB to support bluetooth, it's just been "deactivated" via software. One of these days I want to see if I can reverse engineer it...yes, I want to hack a vacuum, hah!
Tobiasz said:ChuckS said:
Ct15 - 352 usd
MIDI - 466 usd without plastic pipes (I will borrow them from wife old extractor if I will decide)
Mini 440 usd with pipes
All in $ Cdn
[attachimg=1] [attachimg=2]
The midi includes one anti-static suction hose 27mm × 3.5m (1 1/6" × 11'6") with angle-rotating adapter on the extractor side. The hose for the CT15 is now also anti-static.
Attachments
Tobiasz said:
If that's the case, there's little reason to get the CT15 at your location. The Midi at Highland Woodworking is priced at $659 US.
https://www.highlandwoodworking.com/festoolmidimobiledustextractor.aspx
Tobiasz said:Snip.
Ct15 - 352 usd
MIDI - 466 usd without plastic pipes (I will borrow them from wife old extractor if I will decide
Mini 440 usd with pipes
By pipes, do you mean hoses? If so, I can partly see why the MIDI is $466 US. The hose with smooth outer skin alone is more than $200 Cdn here.
mino
Member
- Joined
- May 5, 2016
- Messages
- 1,984
Well, one can get the CT MIDI/MINI I control board assembly as a spare part for $US 170 or so - #204759
It is kinda funny, as the control board assembly for the CT15 is even more expensive at $180 or so.
BUT, that means you need an electrician to do that (legal reasons), you lose any warranty and all that follows. So does not really make much sense when one can just buy the CT MIDI.
Still. It would be a much better approach compared to just "hacking up" one's own solution.
It is kinda funny, as the control board assembly for the CT15 is even more expensive at $180 or so.
BUT, that means you need an electrician to do that (legal reasons), you lose any warranty and all that follows. So does not really make much sense when one can just buy the CT MIDI.
Still. It would be a much better approach compared to just "hacking up" one's own solution.
Yes, the hack should make some sense only if one is already stuck with a CT15 and needs the BT.
Buying new, it's either the CT15 (x1 or x2 given its much cheaper price; BT not critical) or MIDI (BT needed). Buying a new CT15 with the intention of converting it into a "MIDI-like" unit at the expense of voiding the warranty is penny wise to me. Don't forget that the black ribbed hose that comes with the CT15, though anti-static, is not the same as MIDI's green smooth suction hose, which may matter to those who plan to use it with a tracksaw or router.
I'm not aware of any Canadian merchant that is willing to sell a new CT unit alone without a hose at a lower price. If there were one, I would've bought my CT15 without the pricey hose, and used one of the spare shop vac hoses I have around in the shop.
Buying new, it's either the CT15 (x1 or x2 given its much cheaper price; BT not critical) or MIDI (BT needed). Buying a new CT15 with the intention of converting it into a "MIDI-like" unit at the expense of voiding the warranty is penny wise to me. Don't forget that the black ribbed hose that comes with the CT15, though anti-static, is not the same as MIDI's green smooth suction hose, which may matter to those who plan to use it with a tracksaw or router.
I'm not aware of any Canadian merchant that is willing to sell a new CT unit alone without a hose at a lower price. If there were one, I would've bought my CT15 without the pricey hose, and used one of the spare shop vac hoses I have around in the shop.
mino
Member
- Joined
- May 5, 2016
- Messages
- 1,984
In Europe there is a "Set" package for the CT15 which includes (the contents of) the small cleaning set for a small price increase. There is no such offer for the CT MIDI.https://www.festool.de/produkte/saugen/absaugmobile/577415---ct-15-e-setChuckS said:
The price Tobiasz listed for the CT15 seems to include those tubes while his CT MIDI price is for the bare tool. The bare tool CT15 can be had for under $/€ 300 in Germany. Which is a great price, all things considered.
The CT15 did not go up in price over the whole year, so it seems like Festool has sufficient stock which it is selling out. Almost everything else over here, including Festool kit, is like 10-20% more compared to 2021 due to the energy crisis inflation.
