Boom Arm Review

[semenza]

Hi,

      What is the arc that the arm will swing without having to adjust or change anything?

Seth Semenza

 

[semenza]

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....It also should probably be noted that the D27 can be readily installed or removed with the hose brackets intact, but these brackets have to be disassembled to install around the larger D36 hose.  The D36 is held somewhat snuggly within these brackets, which is fine, but without the ability to easily change between hoses one will probably want to leave the larger hose mounted and simply use ties to hang the smaller hose from the power-cord hooks during sanding operations.....

 
        I realise that attaching a second hose with ties is quick easy and does the  job.  I am curious to know if it is possible to get extra hose brackets for the arm as parts, and attach an additional hose with a second row of them?
      Also does the arm have enough strength to hold a D36 and two D27s?

Thanks,

      Seth

 

[Corwin]

... I am curious to know if it is possible to get extra hose brackets for the arm as parts, and attach an additional hose with a second row of them?

    Also does the arm have enough strength to hold a D36 and two D27s?

Best ask your dealer as to the availability of hose brackets, but I did receive a replacement for one with a broken cord clip.

A second row of brackets can be mounted on the arm.  If I were to do as you suggest, I would leave the D36 on and simply insall the D27 when needed since it is able to be installed/removed without messing with the brackets.  I don't understand the need for a third hose unless you mean two D27s coupled together.  In any event, the nylon coupler will probably get bent out of shape with two hoses attached for long -- even with removing the D27 when not in use, I needed to get the aluminum replacement -- works fine now, so I'll continue to remove the D27 after use.

Oh, and the arm swings 90 degrees.

Corwin

 

[richard.selwyn]

I thought I saw someone (maybe Bob Marino) mention an alumin(i)um replacement for the pivot on the boom arm.  My plastic one is sagging badly and I'd like to replace it.  Anyone have the Festool reference please?

 

[Forrest Anderson]

I thought I saw someone (maybe Bob Marino) mention an alumin(i)um replacement for the pivot on the boom arm.  My plastic one is sagging badly and I'd like to replace it.  Anyone have the Festool reference please?

The order number is 465796. See the following message posted by Bob on 18 May in the thread athttp://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=893.0

Some customers have noticed  distortion of the white plastic swivel coupler in the boom arm, resulting in the arm starting to sag. Festool now has a replacement coupler made of solid aluminum that is available for those boom arms with the  problem. It is available by request on an individual basis, shipped at no charge. The item number is 465 -796.

Bob

Forrest

 

[Brice Burrell]

Oh, and the arm swings 90 degrees.

Corwin

There is an allen bolt that limits to arc with the bolt removed the boom can swing 360 degrees. Of course the cord and hose will twist around the boom limiting the ark.

 

[semenza]

Best ask your dealer as to the availability of hose brackets, but I did receive a replacement for one with a broken cord clip.

A second row of brackets can be mounted on the arm.  If I were to do as you suggest, I would leave the D36 on and simply insall the D27 when needed since it is able to be installed/removed without messing with the brackets.  I don't understand the need for a third hose unless you mean two D27s coupled together.  In any event, the nylon coupler will probably get bent out of shape with two hoses attached for long -- even with removing the D27 when not in use, I needed to get the aluminum replacement -- works fine now, so I'll continue to remove the D27 after use.

Oh, and the arm swings 90 degrees.

Corwin

    After thinking about it there would be no need for three hoses. The extras would be in the way when only using one.  The idea of two D27s is for hooking up two sanders at once with different grits. So when going through a stack of pieces ( say twenty or thirty large shelves) I could just put one down and pick up the other. Cutting down on the number of times moving and flipping pieces. Thus speeding things up.

Seth

 

[ericbuggeln]

I am posting this here because it seems to have the most info on Boom Arm, transport, setup, breakdown, on-site, and how to use with y-blanking piece and multiple hoses.  I currently use this setup daily to all festools and miter and table saw on site.  I have a box van which has a back opening of 64" because the roll up door hangs down a bit.  My first question is "will a ct 22 with boom arm fit through there without taking apart?"

I was also wondering if I clamp these two connections will they work well? and would effect anything if I were to cut down the y blanking piece so that when combo ed with DD would fit in a Sys 5?  I have read many of the boom arm stuff on this site, couldn't seem to find the one about multiple hoses working well with a little ingenuity?  I did see that by buying the boom arm I would get enough hose to run from DD to vac?
So, I basically have a bunch of questions.  Just trying to cover my bases before cannibalizing things that are in otherwise perfect condition.  I would be willing to bet that I screwed up pics. Thanks Eric

 

[Bill Wyko]

Nice cyclone. I also took out the stop allan head so I could roll mine back against a wall and turn my boom 90 degrees so it lays against the wall.

 

[Corwin]

...  My first question is "will a ct 22 with boom arm fit through there without taking apart?"

The Boom Arm stands some 80" or so tall when assembled.  However, the upper arm, along with hose and cord can readily be removed as an assembly -- just unplug cord, disconnect hose and remove retaining bolt to remove the upper assembly.  Now the CT without upper assembly stands 54-1/2" or so off the ground -- and will fit in your van.  It is really simply to remove and install the upper assembly -- I've even done so with two hoses and two cords attached.  Hopes this answers your first question.

I was also wondering if I clamp these two connections will they work well? and would effect anything if I were to cut down the y blanking piece so that when combo ed with DD would fit in a Sys 5? 

I cannot see why these fittings would not work for you.  Hose connections function best with smooth transitions, but your setup looks fine.  You will want to make sure you have a completed circuit for the Antistatic feature to work.  This is a simple task of attaching wire or copper tape as needed.  To retain the plug and play aspect, you might want to have fittings that stay attached to the cyclone end with AS fittings and you wire to them.

Another way to go that might work for you is the Loc-Line products.  Hose sections and most fittings are already Antistatic, so connecting directly with AS hose(s) should be a breeze.  I say 'should', because I have not yet purchased any of these products, and cannot say for certain.  But they are worth a look see...

Cutting down the Y enough will render that end unable to attach to the CT or hose connector, but if this Y is dedicated to this task,  so what (just do it).

I have read many of the boom arm stuff on this site, couldn't seem to find the one about multiple hoses working well with a little ingenuity? 

Were you looking to use both at the same time (two tools in use at once) or just have two hoses mounted at the ready to switch between as needed (like how I setup a D27 and D36 both)?  Either will work.

I did see that by buying the boom arm I would get enough hose to run from DD to vac?

Maybe, maybe not.  Too bad the CT's input is low and forward, rather than high and pointing up.  And too bad the cyclone's output points straight up.  A sweeping 90 at the CT and a sweeping 180 atop the cyclone would be sweet;  without one or the other, the length of D50 that comes with the Boom Arm may not be long enough -- especially if you want any Sortainers in between like I have.  

I would be willing to bet that I screwed up pics. Thanks Eric

Only if there was supposed to be two pictures earlier in the post.  I did see two place holders for pics show in your post without anything, but the bottom pics came out well.

 

[ericbuggeln]

corwin, let me start by saying that you are the man.  My post was pretty question heavy and maybe a bit needy, but you took time out of your life to fully answer my questions and give advice.  I owe you one. 

This is a prime example of why the FOG is worth signing up for.  I'm sure I would have figured it out eventually, but the amount of time saved couldn't even be calculated.  It's not just the fact that there are many talented geniuses on this site, but also helpful, thanks again, Eric

 

[nickao]

Corwin is very helpful and always responds to emails, PM's and especially posts really fast.

Thanks Corwin.

 

[semenza]

Hi,

  On the Loc Line that Corwin mentioned- there are two types  AS and non-AS. The black ones are AS the blue and orange  ones are not.  The Loc Line needs a special adapter to connect to regular hoses etc. They sell a male and a female adapter.

    I have some that I had planned to use for my DP, but am no longer going to. I will be placing it in the classified section in a few minutes. If you need to know anything about it (measurements, turn radius, etc),  let me know before I sell it and I will check for you.

Seth

 

[Corwin]

corwin, let me start by saying that you are the man.  My post was pretty question heavy and maybe a bit needy, but you took time out of your life to fully answer my questions and give advice.  I owe you one. 

This is a prime example of why the FOG is worth signing up for.  I'm sure I would have figured it out eventually, but the amount of time saved couldn't even be calculated.  It's not just the fact that there are many talented geniuses on this site, but also helpful, thanks again, Eric

Eric, you are most welcome.  And a big thank you like this is thanks enough.  Rather than an, "I owe you one," I'd just as soon see the, "play it forward" thing instead.  I have learned much by participating in this board -- offering any help is simply my way of repaying for knowledge I have acquired from others.  When it works both ways, it's priceless.

Thanks,
Corwin

 

[Corwin]

...  To retain the plug and play aspect, you might want to have fittings that stay attached to the cyclone end with AS fittings and you wire to them.

To further explain this thought, what I have done on my cyclone installation is to attach the Festool AS Hose Connector fittings to the input and output ports of my cyclone -- actually, I cut a single AS Hose Connector in half for the two fittings.  That enabled me to use copper tape to complete the AS connection both inside and outside of the cyclone that terminate to the AS fittings which are 'permanently' mounted to the cyclone.  Doing it this way allows one to simply plug in their AS fitted hoses to either end and the AS is connected -- no rewiring each time.

Another way to go that might work for you is the Loc-Line products.  Hose sections and most fittings are already Antistatic, so connecting directly with AS hose(s) should be a breeze.  I say 'should', because I have not yet purchased any of these products, and cannot say for certain.  But they are worth a look see...

I've seen some of the smaller Loc-Line products often used for coolant lines for machining, but only recently discovered the vacuum offerings.  From what I've seen the vacuum parts are AS except the fitting that connects to PVC pipe.  And that does make sense.  But how well do these vacuum fittings and hoses work with the Festool parts -- I would imagine that they connect fine, since they are made to work with ShopVac sizes, so, is there a down side to this product line that one might not see in their pictures?  Also, what sources are there that stock the hose and both Male and Female ShopVac end fittings?

Corwin

 

[semenza]

Hi,

        Grizzly has the vacuum size line in the AS version.  Loc Line Grizzly

Seth

 

[Corwin]

Yep, I know they have them.  Actually, their catalog is where I just recently saw them.  But I am not pleased with Grizzly right now -- the new mini lathe I purchased over 3 weeks ago still is inoperable and ... and I have revised and revised this post to not vent.  So, that's about it, as I have nothing good to say.

 

[ericbuggeln]

corwin, i hope to see an fog that I am sharing the knowledge that i have learned from you and many others, thank you and when i see a package marked nebraska I will post pics of what i have come up with, eric

 

[Corwin]

corwin, i hope to see an fog that I am sharing the knowledge that i have learned from you and many others, thank you and when i see a package marked nebraska I will post pics of what i have come up with, eric

;D ;D ;D   We like pics!

 

[Michael Kellough]

Yep, I know they have them.  Actually, their catalog is where I just recently saw them.  But I am not pleased with Grizzly right now -- the new mini lathe I purchased over 3 weeks ago still is inoperable and ... and I have revised and revised this post to not vent.  So, that's about it, as I have nothing good to say.

I admire your restraint Corwin.