Buying on-line is NOT tax-free

[mastercabman]

..ceterum autem censeo Carthiginem esse delendam!

Ceterum censeo nunc est bibendum.  [cool]

That's right Alex
Tell them how it is!

 

[Kev]

I'll start by saying I pay my taxes as I simply don't have a choice. I don't like that taxation is simply unfair as the sheep in the middle are the easy targets and the ones that carry the burden.

If you get a chance to be a wolf ....

 

[teocaf]

..ceterum autem censeo Carthiginem esse delendam!

Ceterum censeo nunc est bibendum.  [cool]

i was mistaken; looks like the discussion has turned to the punic wars and dead poets society.
classic...

 

[sanangelo]

then do the right thing and pay the proper amounts.

Never gonna happen.

Me, as a bystander looking at your American system from a distance, I get the idea it is designed on purpose to work this way. I mean, over here all sales taxes are already calculated into the total price you see and pay. So why not in the USA? If you're a government that really wants to collect on these taxes, the best way is to do it right at the point of sale, not later.

I hope we never see any type of European tax calculation in the US.  It's allready bad enough our gas tax is allready calculated in the the price per gallon and our income tax is usually allready deducted before we get paid by a large company.  The problem when the tax is allready included in the price is that people forget how much tax they are really paying.  If most Americans had any ideas what their gas tax was they would be very angery.  Also most people is the US have no idea what they are really paying in income tax.  They see their end of year refund as a "free money" and don't understand it was just a free loan they gave the government.  All fees and taxes need to be very clear and in your face for people to understand how much they really are paying.

 

[Wuffles]

then do the right thing and pay the proper amounts.

Never gonna happen.

Me, as a bystander looking at your American system from a distance, I get the idea it is designed on purpose to work this way. I mean, over here all sales taxes are already calculated into the total price you see and pay. So why not in the USA? If you're a government that really wants to collect on these taxes, the best way is to do it right at the point of sale, not later.

If most Americans had any ideas what their gas tax was they would be very angry

I don't think you have too much to worry about on that score. Anyone know what we pay in tax and duty for fuel over in the UK?

 

[charley1968]

[member=2205]teocaf[/member]: it's all your fault. Your posts caused a certain hilarity/ hilariousness on my part! Thanx for that!

 

[Cheese]

Teo...you're a stitch...

 

[sanangelo]

then do the right thing and pay the proper amounts.

Never gonna happen.

Me, as a bystander looking at your American system from a distance, I get the idea it is designed on purpose to work this way. I mean, over here all sales taxes are already calculated into the total price you see and pay. So why not in the USA? If you're a government that really wants to collect on these taxes, the best way is to do it right at the point of sale, not later.

If most Americans had any ideas what their gas tax was they would be very angry

I don't think you have too much to worry about on that score. Anyone know what we pay in tax and duty for fuel over in the UK?

You pay to much and I am willing to bet the average person in your country have no real idea what they actually pay. 

This is the reason why governments like to have it built into the price of items.  Most people are just plain to dumb to understand their actual tax bill

 

[Wuffles]

then do the right thing and pay the proper amounts.

Never gonna happen.

Me, as a bystander looking at your American system from a distance, I get the idea it is designed on purpose to work this way. I mean, over here all sales taxes are already calculated into the total price you see and pay. So why not in the USA? If you're a government that really wants to collect on these taxes, the best way is to do it right at the point of sale, not later.

If most Americans had any ideas what their gas tax was they would be very angry

I don't think you have too much to worry about on that score. Anyone know what we pay in tax and duty for fuel over in the UK?

You pay to much and I am willing to bet the average person in your country have no real idea what they actually pay. 

This is the reason why governments like to have it built into the price of items.  Most people are just plain to dumb to understand their actual tax bill

The problem in the UK is that it's not a secret, kind of makes it worse  [unsure]

Figures from 2011.

 

[sanangelo]

then do the right thing and pay the proper amounts.

Never gonna happen.

Me, as a bystander looking at your American system from a distance, I get the idea it is designed on purpose to work this way. I mean, over here all sales taxes are already calculated into the total price you see and pay. So why not in the USA? If you're a government that really wants to collect on these taxes, the best way is to do it right at the point of sale, not later.

If most Americans had any ideas what their gas tax was they would be very angry

I don't think you have too much to worry about on that score. Anyone know what we pay in tax and duty for fuel over in the UK?

You pay to much and I am willing to bet the average person in your country have no real idea what they actually pay. 

This is the reason why governments like to have it built into the price of items.  Most people are just plain to dumb to understand their actual tax bill

The problem in the UK is that it's not a secret, kind of makes it worse  [unsure]

Figures from 2011.

They usually have it on the pumps in my area or al least they did at one time usually on the side in small print but the large sign on the street only shows the whole price .  Had a friend see a gas price the other day that said 1.89 .  He was happy until I told him about .384 of that price was tax.  Like most he had no idea he tax here was that high.  At least it's not as high as some of the suckers in the north east pay in gas tax

 

[WastedP]

..ceterum autem censeo Carthiginem esse delendam!

Ceterum censeo nunc est bibendum.  [cool]

i was mistaken; looks like the discussion has turned to the punic wars and dead poets society.
classic...

I cannae say how happy I am that someone has addressed the elephant in the room.

 

[WastedP]

Most people are just plain to dumb to understand their actual tax bill.

"There are idiots.  Look around."  -- Larry Summers, former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury

 

[AlexThePalex]

You pay to much and I am willing to bet the average person in your country have no real idea what they actually pay. 

This is the reason why governments like to have it built into the price of items.  Most people are just plain to dumb to understand their actual tax bill

I rather think most people know pretty well how much they have to pay in taxes but accept it without constantly eating themselves up about it, because they know that without taxes you can not run a civilised society. 

 

[Locks14]

then do the right thing and pay the proper amounts.

Never gonna happen.

Me, as a bystander looking at your American system from a distance, I get the idea it is designed on purpose to work this way. I mean, over here all sales taxes are already calculated into the total price you see and pay. So why not in the USA? If you're a government that really wants to collect on these taxes, the best way is to do it right at the point of sale, not later.

If most Americans had any ideas what their gas tax was they would be very angry

I don't think you have too much to worry about on that score. Anyone know what we pay in tax and duty for fuel over in the UK?

You pay to much and I am willing to bet the average person in your country have no real idea what they actually pay. 

This is the reason why governments like to have it built into the price of items.  Most people are just plain to dumb to understand their actual tax bill

There's a certain amount of irony when someone accusing people of being dumb, doesn't know the difference between "to" and "too"! ;D

 

[Corwin]

You pay to much and I am willing to bet the average person in your country have no real idea what they actually pay. 

This is the reason why governments like to have it built into the price of items.  Most people are just plain to dumb to understand their actual tax bill

There's a certain amount of irony when someone accusing people of being dumb, doesn't know the difference between "to" and "too"! ;D

Uhm, and you missed one too.  [blink] [wink] [big grin]

 

[charley1968]

[member=41832]WastedP[/member] : time to take some actium?

 

[sanangelo]

then do the right thing and pay the proper amounts.

Never gonna happen.

Me, as a bystander looking at your American system from a distance, I get the idea it is designed on purpose to work this way. I mean, over here all sales taxes are already calculated into the total price you see and pay. So why not in the USA? If you're a government that really wants to collect on these taxes, the best way is to do it right at the point of sale, not later.

If most Americans had any ideas what their gas tax was they would be very angry

I don't think you have too much to worry about on that score. Anyone know what we pay in tax and duty for fuel over in the UK?

You pay to much and I am willing to bet the average person in your country have no real idea what they actually pay. 

This is the reason why governments like to have it built into the price of items.  Most people are just plain to dumb to understand their actual tax bill

There's a certain amount of irony when someone accusing people of being dumb, doesn't know the difference between "to" and "too"! ;D

I had to sale the extra O to pay the tax bill for my new toys  [big grin]

 

[sanangelo]

You pay to much and I am willing to bet the average person in your country have no real idea what they actually pay. 

This is the reason why governments like to have it built into the price of items.  Most people are just plain to dumb to understand their actual tax bill

I rather think most people know pretty well how much they have to pay in taxes but accept it without constantly eating themselves up about it, because they know that without taxes you can not run a civilised society.

I think you are wrong on people thinking they know how much they are paying (in my opinion in the US at least).  As to a civilized society that rally depends on your exact definition.  In other countries socialist provided services are considered great and in soome countries it's a waste of money and nothing but redistribution of wealth.  Now on another subject how was the weather today ?

 

[semenza]

The weather here is in the middle of a stretch of 60 - 70 F and sunny. Really nice!  [smile]

Seth

 

[Wonderwino]

My Mom lives in New York and when she had her house painted, the contractor offered one price if paid by check and a cheaper price if paid in cash; cabbage; $100 bills.  I'm sure he is on the "honor" system for paying income tax.....