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cabinet hinge identification
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found these using google lenshttps://www.swisco.com/discussions/MEPLA-Hinge-replacement-77-223884https://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/882011-kitchen-cabinet-hinge-question.html
they may help
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It is an older style Grass demountable Euro hinge.
https://cabinet.matttroy.net/grass-cabinet-hinges-830-15/
Tom
https://cabinet.matttroy.net/grass-cabinet-hinges-830-15/
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That capitol stylized "G" next to the upper screw is the logo for Grass.
It's definitely an older model, from back when their drilling pattern of the cup-side screws, was different.
Back in the day, we had to have a separate drill/inserter for them, since Salice, Blum, and pretty much everyone else had a common pattern.
It appears that someone has already changed them once.
Though I'm more familiar with the clip together frameless style myself. I bet only 10% or less are face frame, in my regular use.
It's definitely an older model, from back when their drilling pattern of the cup-side screws, was different.
Back in the day, we had to have a separate drill/inserter for them, since Salice, Blum, and pretty much everyone else had a common pattern.
It appears that someone has already changed them once.
Though I'm more familiar with the clip together frameless style myself. I bet only 10% or less are face frame, in my regular use.
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As CRG stated these hinges have been replaced at least once already.
Put a piece of tape on the face frame, close the door, pencil mark on the tape along the edge of the door, measure the distance from the inside edge of the face frame. this is your overlay.
I would use the Blum Clip Compacts if you want a de-mountable. Look over the chart, find the hinge range that falls in your overlay measurement.
https://www.blum.com/us/en/products/hingesystems/compact-clip/programme/
Tom
Put a piece of tape on the face frame, close the door, pencil mark on the tape along the edge of the door, measure the distance from the inside edge of the face frame. this is your overlay.
I would use the Blum Clip Compacts if you want a de-mountable. Look over the chart, find the hinge range that falls in your overlay measurement.
https://www.blum.com/us/en/products/hingesystems/compact-clip/programme/
Tom
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Thank you all for your help much appreciated!
These kind of look like the old Amerock hinges. The hinge is entirely made from die castings like the Amerock. Blum hinges use stamping. I do have my old Amerocks and I will post an image when I get home.
But…
These were not the original hinges used on these doors. The unused hole off to the side is the giveaway. When I replaced a couple of Amerocks with Blum hinges, the cup hole was in the right place, but the mounting screw holes were not. I had to drill new holes.
The key is the overlay. If you get the overlay right, everything else seems to fall into place.
I was starting to feel silly for saving my old Amerock hinges (in perfect condition, but not soft close).
I just now saw them for sale (used) on EBay for $15.00 each. By that price, I have about $750.00 worth of hinges. (I still feel a little silly hanging onto them.)
But…
These were not the original hinges used on these doors. The unused hole off to the side is the giveaway. When I replaced a couple of Amerocks with Blum hinges, the cup hole was in the right place, but the mounting screw holes were not. I had to drill new holes.
The key is the overlay. If you get the overlay right, everything else seems to fall into place.
I was starting to feel silly for saving my old Amerock hinges (in perfect condition, but not soft close).
I just now saw them for sale (used) on EBay for $15.00 each. By that price, I have about $750.00 worth of hinges. (I still feel a little silly hanging onto them.)
I took the photo and I see that they are not the same as the Amerock circa 1990 - 1995 that I replaced. The only similarity seems to be that both hinges are made from die castings (probably zinc die castings) and not stampings.
Die castings are (were) always considered a more robust construction than stamping. Blum seemingly proved that was not the case.
At any rate, here is the photo. It has adjustability in two dimensions only, and those adjustments are far more tedious to make than on the Blum hinges.
What I don’t get is why the EBay listing is $15.00 per hinge (actually $30.00 for a pair). I get that they are out of production, but there are perfectly viable replacements that are practically plug and play that cost less than $5.00 per hinge (and include soft close).
Die castings are (were) always considered a more robust construction than stamping. Blum seemingly proved that was not the case.
At any rate, here is the photo. It has adjustability in two dimensions only, and those adjustments are far more tedious to make than on the Blum hinges.
What I don’t get is why the EBay listing is $15.00 per hinge (actually $30.00 for a pair). I get that they are out of production, but there are perfectly viable replacements that are practically plug and play that cost less than $5.00 per hinge (and include soft close).
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