Carlson Designs reviews the TS 55 REQ

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Tool Select, an independent reviewer of power tools, teamed up with Dan Carlson of Carlson Designs to put the TS 55 REQ to the test to see if it lives up to our claims in a series of eight specific tasks.

Check out the video.

 
Very interesting and a well done video.

A bit of a mess on the long rip without dust collection, and he was not using the MFT which would be a significant factor particularly for cross-cuts.

Jeff
 
Good video, but he should have used the splinter guard on the cuts where chip-out was a prime concern.
 
Guys, remember that the "tester", in this case Dan Carlson, is someone who is not familiar with or an owner of the tool. They are given a tool and asked to put it through its paces and give their opinions.

There's also a few sections where he has the parallel guides attached but they aren't needed. I'd ask that you focus on his unbiased opinions rather than his techniques.
 
That doesn't make any sense. If his opinion was that its a good cut but it leaves a lot of dust, you'd recommend using a ct. If he had chip-out you'd say use the splinter guard.

We're just pointing out the obvious.
 
That's a well produced video. I think that the guy not being very familiar with the saw could be viewed as a slight positive, as opposed to someone else using it that didn't make any mistakes. It gives it a little more credibility.

My biggest concern is where he is shown plunging the blade on a few cuts. The first one wasn't even a plunge cut, but he just didn't back the saw up far enough before the cut. That will quickly pull the saw to full depth unexpectedly, and is probably a fairly common mistake with new users.

The blind plunge cut could have gone south pretty quickly, but it was also pretty obvious that he had enough experience with saws to minimize it. Obviously he didn't realize that the black thing still in the Systainer was the backstop.

The rip cut without dust collection is actually pretty impressive, and shows how well the new blade housing design makes better use of the blade windage to channel the dust through the blade housing. The blade housing has a new channel incorporated around the perimeter and close to the blade plate, where the teeth of the blade are creating windage through this channel from the front of the cut all the way back to the dust port.

In the past, dust could continue following the teeth of the blade and return back to the workpiece at the rear of the cut. With this new dust channel, there is virtually no dust that doesn't get directed out through the dust port even when no dust collection is in use.

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Mr. Carlson seems like a very experienced user of tools, and he does a great video.

But in the "PROVE IT" video he demonstrates limited familiarity with the TS55 and related products by using it without dust collection, a backstop, splinterguard, or MFT.  I don't see how this adds to his credibility.

For those of us that are familiar with the products it is no problem, we understand what he is not doing and fill in the missing pieces for ourselves. 

But if I were to watch him with a product I am not familiar with I would wonder about what is missing that I can't fill in for myself.

Jeff
 
I was just sharing the video for those who may be on the fence about a TS saw.

I would recommend that you contact Tool Select with your feedback on the video and/or the reviewer's knowledge or lack of knowledge of the tool.

http://www.toolselect.com/ContactUs/ContactUs

Thanks for pointing out the deficiencies to those who aren't familiar with first hand experience with the TS.
 
Thanks for sharing that Shane. It was a very well put together video. Lets not get into the nitty gritty on this. We can all fill in relevant spots here.
 
By the way, I didn't point out those plunge cuts because I wanted to nit-pick. I pointed them out because they are safety issues, and they should be noted for any new, or potential new, user of a plunging saw that will be reading this thread now or in the future. They are in direct contravention with all instructions for the saw.
 
Nope. No worries. I didn't think you were at all. I just wanted to point out that it was the reason why I brought them up.
 
Ya I understand where your coming from but if I'm honest I never use the stop. Actually I must check my tloc tomorrow and see did it come with one here in Ireland. I can't say I ever noticed one in it.
 
galwaydude18 said:
Actually I must check my tloc tomorrow and see did it come with one here in Ireland. I can't say I ever noticed one in it.

Being made of black plastic, it can easily be overlooked stuck in the black Systainer insert.  [wink]

But, I'm also not familiar with the scope of delivery in Ireland compared to the US/Canada.
 
I've accidentally made a plunge at the start of a cut like what he did early in the video. When you don't realize that you aren't far enough behind the start of the cut, that is when it is going to wake you up as the saw snaps down to full depth. It is not high on the risk level, but it is going to wake you up pretty fast.  [big grin]

I have also deliberately made a plunge cut without a backstop, and did it very similar to how he did it. The difference is that an experienced woodworker probably already knows that he is doing something dangerous that can go bad very quickly. However, when that cut does go wrong, it is also much higher on the risk level than the one mentioned above. When this kind of cut goes wrong, it can cause serious personal injury. That is why every saw is shipped with a backstop in the systainer.
 
john/. the stop isnt included over here.

rick. i did that too. frightened the hell out of me. i went out and bought the stop just so i would have it for those jobs
 
Cheers Alan. That saves me having a look. I could have swore if it was in it I would seem it alright. I just thought I oversaw it while reading this thread
 
That's surprising that they are not required in all countries. Two weeks ago when I learned that my father didn't have one with the ATF saw I gave him years ago, I pulled both of mine out of this photo prop and gave them to him right after I finished shooting. Hopefully I still have 2 more floating around the workshop.

If you don't have one, get one. Two are even better, but that is just for convenience.

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Rick Christopherson said:
I've accidentally made a plunge at the start of a cut like what he did early in the video. When you don't realize that you aren't far enough behind the start of the cut, that is when it is going to wake you up as the saw snaps down to full depth. It is not high on the risk level, but it is going to wake you up pretty fast.  [big grin]

Oh ya, it definitely wakes you up. Done it a couple times.

 
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