Ted Miller
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Ok, now I need a few aspirins...
Center your Domino height easily
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Dixon Peer
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Holy mackerel!
the way I center the domino is I measure the thickness with the vertical scale. Say I measure 15 mm. I then add 10 mm to the number. (10 mm being the distance from the bottom to the center of bit.) So, 15mm plus 10 mm equals 25mm divided by 2, equals
12 1/2mm. Find or guesstimate 12 1/2 mm on the vertical scale and you will be relatively close to center.
12 1/2mm. Find or guesstimate 12 1/2 mm on the vertical scale and you will be relatively close to center.
This is a tad off topic, but the theory must be the same.
i am just about finished with my spring cleanups (landscaping). i have a largemower with a vacuum system (note system is also a Festool term) for picking up leaves. the leaves get all broken down into tiny pieces (we do this with Festool in regards to wood). When the bags are full i stop filling and empty the bags (we do this with Festool CT's also) You cannot see when the bags are full. (same with CT's) A customer asked me how i knew the bags were full. I told him the exact method was to count the leaves going under the mower blades, multiply by 100 and devide by 37, add a factor and devide by that, and when i get to the correct result, i know when to empty the bags. Of course he had to show HIS confusion by asking me "what the extra factor and what is the correct result" NOW I have figured a context from which to view this thread and I am no longer confused. i better start fixing coffee and i will wakeup.
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i am just about finished with my spring cleanups (landscaping). i have a largemower with a vacuum system (note system is also a Festool term) for picking up leaves. the leaves get all broken down into tiny pieces (we do this with Festool in regards to wood). When the bags are full i stop filling and empty the bags (we do this with Festool CT's also) You cannot see when the bags are full. (same with CT's) A customer asked me how i knew the bags were full. I told him the exact method was to count the leaves going under the mower blades, multiply by 100 and devide by 37, add a factor and devide by that, and when i get to the correct result, i know when to empty the bags. Of course he had to show HIS confusion by asking me "what the extra factor and what is the correct result" NOW I have figured a context from which to view this thread and I am no longer confused. i better start fixing coffee and i will wakeup.
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Does anyone know if there is a board thickness gauge that fits the Domino that uses the now common thickness of wood products? Since most wood products are not 20, but 19, using the board thickness gauge requires marking for not only edge matches, but also top/bottom so that when glued and put together you do not end up with 1 to 2 mm offset (edge to edge or corner match). I have started using the manual set up and given up on using the gauge. It works well. It would nice if someone has actually produced a replacement board thickness gauge for convenience. Just asking and hoping.
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Aren't off-center mortises a safety feature rather than a bug? They stop you from assembling the piece incorrectly during the rush to glue-up.
At least the DF700 through away the two different ways to measure height gauges and just standardized on distance from mortise center for both the quick-setting block and the scale on the fence. If we ever get a DF600 or new version of the DF500 (don't hold your breath), I suspect it'll be the same.
At least the DF700 through away the two different ways to measure height gauges and just standardized on distance from mortise center for both the quick-setting block and the scale on the fence. If we ever get a DF600 or new version of the DF500 (don't hold your breath), I suspect it'll be the same.
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Japan Woodworker used to be an online store that specialized in -you guessed it- . It was bought by Woodcraft so you can still find Japanese stuff there that is hard to find elsewhere.
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jeffinsgf said:
Glad you got to go there. Wasn’t sure there ever was a brick and mortar store.
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...and before Woodcraft bought them out they were a Tanos dealer. About half of the Fogtainer blue boxes came from there with outstanding pricing and shipping costs in order to clear them out. I loved their catalogs.
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I have one of their special Japanese planes I bought there a few decades ago. I've never done anything with it - maybe I should sell it?
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Somebody had to scrape the dust off of this one [eek]
As stated, trying to be so perfect with centering is a fool's errand. There is no point to it, and can actually work against you.
This is one of the few that has escaped the "Americanizing" it's all still Metric [big grin]
As stated, trying to be so perfect with centering is a fool's errand. There is no point to it, and can actually work against you.
This is one of the few that has escaped the "Americanizing" it's all still Metric [big grin]
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Thank-you for the helpful description of my effort to find a possible solution to a perplexing problem. Given your specific identification of my personal approach in attempting to find a solution I will return to my earlier position of being an observing member of FOG and not bother you again with a "fool's errand". Thank-you for providing your helpful highly rated professional and clear direction to a lower ranked hobbyist like myself that by the way found a solution just last night.
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What solution did you come up with?salbrechtnh said:
My favorite dowel jig for sheet goods, makes no effort to center the dowels on 3/4” thick or 18mm, 19mm or 20mm thick board.
It was a headache until it wasn’t. I figured a way to keep things in order.
Centering a dowel (or a domino) only becomes important if the wall thickness is marginal on one side and generous on the other.
If you were putting dominoes in the approximate middle of a 2” piece of stock, a small amount of out-of-center will not affect the strength.
But if you put a domino in the approximate middle of a 5/8” thick piece of plywood, the potential strength will be compromised if one side has 3 laminations and the other side has 5 laminations.
So is centering important for dominoes? Probably, but just sometimes. Stopping and thinking is important, but relying on data for that thinking is even more important.
I remember advice I read in a study commissioned by the flat pack manufacturers’ association, which sports as a major member IKEA.
The advice was “no fasteners within 2” of the end of a panel or board.” That would be dowels, screws, confirmats, into the edge of the panels. You need space on both sides of a fastener to avoid panel breakage. (No, they did not include dominoes. They only included assembly methods that could be automated. But pretty much all the conclusions would apply to dominoes also.)
It was a headache until it wasn’t. I figured a way to keep things in order.
Centering a dowel (or a domino) only becomes important if the wall thickness is marginal on one side and generous on the other.
If you were putting dominoes in the approximate middle of a 2” piece of stock, a small amount of out-of-center will not affect the strength.
But if you put a domino in the approximate middle of a 5/8” thick piece of plywood, the potential strength will be compromised if one side has 3 laminations and the other side has 5 laminations.
So is centering important for dominoes? Probably, but just sometimes. Stopping and thinking is important, but relying on data for that thinking is even more important.
I remember advice I read in a study commissioned by the flat pack manufacturers’ association, which sports as a major member IKEA.
The advice was “no fasteners within 2” of the end of a panel or board.” That would be dowels, screws, confirmats, into the edge of the panels. You need space on both sides of a fastener to avoid panel breakage. (No, they did not include dominoes. They only included assembly methods that could be automated. But pretty much all the conclusions would apply to dominoes also.)
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