"Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de

Festoller said:
Any idea how to improve the drilling process
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I think Guido's methodology is the best hands down. You get the right depth, the holes are perfectly centered and the proper depth and if you are using Festool routers, perfectly clean.
I use these fasteners (with a Hafele jig and drill) and they can be finicky.
The 10mm hole must be drilled precisely (vertically and horizontally) or when you install the connector it will pull the 20mm section of the connector forward which results in the connector not sitting flush with the surface of the substrate weakening the joint.
It is easier and faster to use a rafix-SE (or similar Hettich or Blum) type fitting. It's only one 20mm hole, it holds as well and I think the only risk is in the Rafix fitting turning in the 20mm hole (if bored too wide) during installation, which would make it difficult to line up the pin.

Hope this helps.
Tim
 
Hi I think the easiest and cheapest away to compete the task is the way it was done in the video.this was not a diy jig but a user made jig you could make the same thing using a piece of phenolic if you wanted something more attractive

I do not own the mfs 400 but i see there is some sort of guide you can attach to the rails you would need two of them and you would still need two machines.
and i'm not sure if you could get the hole centres close enough together.

so why not just use a .50 cent piece of ply or mdf for the jig that way you can use it over and over.
 
Guido said:
When the last two parts of the video are on air, there will be next a version with the fully video (about 33 min - without breaks). I will ask festool that we make this version with an english voice over. I think its better than subtitels - you should concentrate on the tools not on reading  ;)

Guido
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Guido,  outside the article, could you share the overall dimensions of one of the boxes (LxHxW)?  Would lie to build a set this weekend.

Thanks, in advance

Mike
 
Mike, no problem, please visit my Website "hobbywood.de" and click "kontakt" and "email senden" to give me your email-adress and I will help you.

Regards

Guido
 
Guido:

Is the article/ plan (dimensions) already available? I couldn't find a new Holzidee, the last one is from June 2010.
 
Guido,

Your elegant solution to this universal storage problem is very useful because it can easily be scaled to fit one 's requirements of available space, or systainer (or other container) dimensions, or material sizes that are available, etc. The video flows well and shows the sequence and some details.
How did you position the hole for the threaded steel dowels that connect the bottoms and tops to be 9.5mm (assuming 19mm thick material) from the panel ends? - template? jig? LR32?
What do some other members use?
thanks
 
I think that if I were ever to go to Europe, I would hit the Festool store and get stuff that you cannot get here and ship it over.  I love that table saw where the saw moves and the wood is stationary.  And that clamp for corners...
 
Festoller said:
Here's the "Holzidee" (pdf) download including plan and dimensions from Festool Germany (it's metric and in German):

http://www.festool.de/Aktionen/Festool-fuer-Heimwerker/Holzidee-Heimwerken/Seiten/Holzidee-Magazin-Ausgaben.aspx

click on Download Holzidee 11, it starts at page 46.
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Yes they are well worth reading through.. lots of pictures and plans for load of ideas, pretty easy to follow, also some good jig ideas for CMS etc, plus so good explanations on topics like finishing
here are some screenshots from the PDFs to give you all a taster, sysports, workshop storage plus lots more!

unled1bl.jpg

unled2sfr.jpg

unled3lc.jpg

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unled5wi.jpg

unled6y.jpg

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That large clamp cart is rockin'...  I would love to build something like that.  I only with the sheet goods were not as expensive and better quality.  But that excites me... I may need to leave the forums for a moment.  [scared]
 
One more thing.  I wanted to give a shout out to Guido.  He has been very helpful at patient with the euro 32 system noob (me).

As I was shooting Guido messages as the different phases occur, this time I thought I would see what the group thinks.  

This didn't occur to me as I learned to construct face frame cabs, the hinge placement is not supremely critical in the sense where the hinge attached to the frame.  Now with the euro style you must be able to figure out where to bore the hole in the door as it relates to the hole series inside the cabinet.  

Guido in the video uses some sort of plastic piece that snaps into the case holes and the door is then slid under the other side and aligned.  A pencil mark is transferred from the jig and locates the hinge cup in the door.

Does anyone know where I can find such a inexpensive piece of plastic??   ???

Thanks to everyone and especially you Guido.  [thanks]

Mike
 
The piece of plastic is the Hettich MultiBlue location marking template.
You can find it on German ebay.
 
Does anyone have a yearly account with Adobe for converting PDF to Word documents online? I know there are a few FOG'ers that speak German but I know that I do not.  Nor do I know the binary language of moisture evaporators , but I would really like to read those PDF files on the German Festool site.

I am not certain if Festool Corporate would be concerned.  If so, never mind...  [huh]

Ahhh...

I forgot to add that once converted to Word docs, they could then be run through the Google universal translator.  It would not be perfect, but that would be, I believe, easier than attempting to read German.  Yes, the pictures are pretty and pretty informative, but.
 
Standard Adobe Acrobat (not Reader) can save PDF documents in a number of formats, e.g. HTML, JPEGs, etc ... including MS Word. (I use a Mac).
Which part of the document are you interested in? perhaps I can help.
 
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Does anyone know where to purchase  the Hettich knockdown connectors  seen in the Guido movie ?
::)
 
No, but I think you should look at Lamello clamex system. I know they're not cheap and the best ones need a special tool, ( but the basi ones can be used with a biscuit jointer with a special blade) but to me they seem to do the same as the hettich only better. I bought the zeta machine and really like it in spite of the festoolish price.
Regards
Richard
 
Thanks for the reply Tim I don't supose you know where they seel the jig or better yet the dimensions to make the Jig that Guido used? ???
 
Limey556 said:
Thanks for the reply Tim I don't supose you know where they seel the jig or better yet the dimensions to make the Jig that Guido used? ???
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Hafele sells them but they are expensive and you may need to provide proof (letterhead, business card etc.) that you are in the business.
Search for Rafix jig on Google.
I think the jig that Guido uses is the best solution for occasional use and unless you have experience (practice) it's more accurate than the Hafele jig.
I would just buy the connectors and build your own jig through trial and error. The video gives you a fair amount of clues as to what is required. If you look at the RafixHafele documentation it will show you that you need a 10mm, 20mm and 5 mm bits for these connectors. The Hafele site has downloadable catalogs that give a little more detail on additional connectors and assembly.
Unless you need the flexibility to move or break down your cabinet frequently or need to mass produce panels on a CNC to modular system (32mm) for easy configuration, shipping and assembly on site, ready to assemble fittings (RTA) such as these don't really make much sense. Also, you do need to make extremely accurate cuts (dimensionally and square) for this system, or the connectors may not work properly.
These fittings create very good (butt) joints but like Richard said above the Lamello clamex system will be easier to use if not a little more pricey. By the time you bought the Hafele jig and figured out how to use it, you could probably assemble your whole cabinet with the Lamello tool.
For occasional use assembling a cabinet box with biscuits, dadoes, screws and glue is cheaper faster, just as strong (or stronger) as using these types of connectors. There is a brilliant DVD by Frank Klaus called biscuit joinery showing how to build bookcase using knock down hardware among other things.
Tim
 
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