"Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de

Limey556:

you need the Hettich Drilljig VB. I have long searched for the best and cheapest way to drill those Hettich VB Fittings and I think this is the best choice.

http://web2.hettich.com/hbh/Start.do?localeId=EN&itemId=20166

unfortunately I couldn't find a dealer for the Drilljig VB, but Woodstocksupply offers the one for Euro Hinges for $187 and the VB is usually the same price:

http://www.woodstocksupply.com/hinge-drilling-jig-47303-hettich.html

Maybe they can help?

I have just used it to build a "Guido" closet and it was much easier than using two routers with two bits as Guido did. If you need to buy the 20 and 10 mm router bit and the rest of the equipment you probably still have to add a liitle bit more cash for the Drilljig (should be $180 or so), but if you don't have two routers anyway, the Drilljig will be much more convenient. It is also adjustable for the different sizes of the Hettich VB Fittings. Be sure to get the proper VB fitting for the thickness you're working with.

For any kind of built in I would recommend this fitting, since it was very fast and easy to assemble and the whole closet seems extremely rigid.
 
Limey556:

I forgot, here's the plan for building the Guido VB Jig. It's from Holzidee 11 and in German as well as metric (mm), but I guess all you need is the dimensions.

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Festoller said:
you need the Hettich Drilljig VB. I have long searched for the best and cheapest way to drill those Hettich VB Fittings and I think this is the best choice.
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Festoller:
Great info, and thanks for the link to Wood stock supply.
Tim
 
Tim / Festoller
Thanks for all the feedback great information as always from the FOG members.

I am not a full time professional at this mostly upgrading buildings I own. If I can't find the Hettich Jig I will build the Guido type one from the plans in the link provided. I am in the process of retrofitting a building with all built-ins to maximize space. I love the simplicity of the Hettich knock-down fittings and after watching Guido assembling them on-site I'm completely sold on this method of cabinet construction.

It will probably take a few attempts and different methods but I will work at it until I have a repeatable system or methodology down pat. I am considering  the Festool LR 32 system along with the 1400 router for all of the other system holes any thoughts on that ?

Terry
 
Limey556 said:
If I can't find the Hettich Jig I will build the Guido type one from the plans in the link provided.

It will probably take a few attempts and different methods but I will work at it until I have a repeatable system or methodology down pat. I am considering  the Festool LR 32 system along with the 1400 router for all of the other system holes any thoughts on that ?
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Terry:
I know that Wood stock supply has the Hettich DrillJjib VB so you should be able to get it there. Hopefully I didn't buy the last one.
I am a big fan of the LR32 system, and it's really why I started using Festool in the first place. It works flawlessly.
I don't have the 1400 (plan on buying one) so I can't comment on that, but I love the 1010. It's light, and easy to manage reaching across a wide board.
Obviously the best way to use it is to keep to 32mm increments in your sizes but I have used imperial measurement and as long as you mark the rail for the proper hole alignment you are good to go. There are some great tutorials here on FOG.
I can't remember if the Guido builds a back on his cabinets or not and the video isn't working for me.
The closet inserts that I have built hang on a cabinet suspension system which you might also want to look into depending on your approach.
 
Tim Raleigh said:
I can't remember if the Guido builds a back on his cabinets or not and the video isn't working for me.
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Yes, the Guido cabinets had backs on them.
 
Tim

That Hettich VB Drill Jig is $380.00 CDN from Robert Bury Supply, they have one in Canada, I think the guy I talked said it was in Montreal.

John
 
junk said:
Tim

That Hettich VB Drill Jig is $380.00 CDN from Robert Bury Supply, they have one in Canada, I think the guy I talked said it was in Montreal.

John
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Hey John:
Thanks.
Ya I got a price from Robert Bury in Brampton...439.11 cdn. [scared]
Price from (US) Wood Stock Supply - 193.40.  [big grin] Thanks again Festoller.
I was told that  (Hettich) discontinued making the Euro Hinge.
Tim
 
Tim, can you expand on the closet suspension system. What are the advantages ? From what I could see on the drawing it provides adjustment in two directions but it seems to hang on a specialized screw I am not sure how many of these screws would be needed for security.  I probably missing something here.

I was considering using a french cleat to hang the wardrobe inserts.

Love all the Festool stuff !!!!  So far I have the C12, TS55, MFT3, Kapex with the UG Extensions, Parallel Guides, RO90, Domino, CT26E with the Boom Arm and the Tradesman Cleaning Vacuum set. I just got the new SCG10 Self Centering Guides for the Domino from Rick Christopherson RTS Engineering and love them.

I just finished re-habbing 20 windows with the RO90 and was amazed at how good this sander really is .

The Domino what can you say about this tool it's such a game changer that the FOG could probably dedicate a whole section just to this tool. I am sure I haven't even scratched the surface on all the uses and techniques.

Terry
 
Limey556 said:
Tim, can you expand on the closet suspension system. What are the advantages ? From what I could see on the drawing it provides adjustment in two directions but it seems to hang on a specialized screw I am not sure how many of these screws would be needed for security.  I probably missing something here.

I was considering using a french cleat to hang the wardrobe inserts.
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Terry:
Here is a page showing a picture of the Hafele system which is exactly the same as the Hettich suspension system.

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As the document says these are aluminum or steel rails, available in any size with a profile much like a z clips into which the hanger hooks onto. Essentially you fasten the rail onto the wall (into studs) and then hang the cabinet on the rail. Saves putting a back on the cabinet particularly if this is going to be used in a closet that already has doors on it or in situations where the wall serves as the back of the cabinet.
Hope that helps.
Tim
 
Hey guys this is my first post on the FOG, but I am so impressed with this project I am putting together the materials to build one. Does anyone have a USA source for the panel connectors used in the video. I think they are RAFIX fittings. Thanks.
 
n2scouting said:
Hey guys this is my first post on the FOG, but I am so impressed with this project I am putting together the materials to build one. Does anyone have a USA source for the panel connectors used in the video. I think they are RAFIX fittings. Thanks.
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Welcome to the FOG n2scouting.
See comment # 7. Good luck with your project, take some pictures.
Tim
 
great videos but I dont like the way he drills out the handle holes on doors and drawers. Just drilling through with no scrap on the reverse, good way to get ugly blow out , I always hold a scrap of timber on the back when I drill out handles.
 
Interesting videos.  I've been a professional cabinetmaker for 15 years and learned a few tricks!  We use RTA fittings all the time but we also have a half million dollars worth of saws and CNC machining centers.  A few things in the video did make me smile and wonder,

1.  The edgebanding on the doors and drawer fronts seems to magically appear.  No mention is made of it's application.  I find myself wondering if there is a $30,000.00 Holzher edgebander just off camera. [big grin]

2.  The gaps on the fronts are VERY good.  Nice work Guido!!  That makes me think that some (a lot of them anyway) are cut on some type of commercial panel saw.

I really enjoyed watching the videos.  Thanks for posting them.

Ted Pancoast
President
Ted Pancoast Woodworking
tedpancoastwoodworking.com
 
Getting ready to make a modified Vesion since there is only white 4x8 0.75 melamine sheets available around here. I can't seem to find any 5mm or 1/4" for the back. Do you think that will work OK? Also is the white melamine iron on tape any good?
 
txrpls said:
Getting ready to make a modified Version since there is only white 4x8 0.75 melamine sheets available around here. I can't seem to find any 5mm or 1/4" for the back. Do you think that will work OK? Also is the white melamine iron on tape any good?
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1/4" white melamine should be widely available.  Where in the world are you?  As far as the tape, ironing on white melamine tape is a pain.  You have to get the temperature just right.  Too hot and you'll melt the tape.  Not hot enough and the glue won't bond.  You'll have better luck with a hot air edgebander of some type.  A full blown hotmelt edgebander is the best option for pvc and polyester banding. 
 
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