check this out DF500 offset base

[member=59827]woodvkk[/member]  Actually I haven't used it for that so I don't specifically know. When I did some tricky Domino work with the Domino vertical awhile back (not in end grain), I marked the wood, laid down some blue masking tape at the exact corner point for the Domino's face, and plunged with the Domino on its "face". If you mean plunging into the end grain on like a 3/4" piece, I would think it would work well as long as you watch which face you use for reference. One of the offset base's strong points, I think, is giving the Domino stability and ensuring that it stays in place while plunging. Based on other posts in this thread, another may better answer this for you. Next opportunity I have I will try that though. It will provide more justification for the money I spent.
 
grbmds said:
[member=59827]woodvkk[/member]  Actually I haven't used it for that so I don't specifically know. When I did some tricky Domino work with the Domino vertical awhile back (not in end grain), I marked the wood, laid down some blue masking tape at the exact corner point for the Domino's face, and plunged with the Domino on its "face". If you mean plunging into the end grain on like a 3/4" piece, I would think it would work well as long as you watch which face you use for reference. One of the offset base's strong points, I think, is giving the Domino stability and ensuring that it stays in place while plunging. Based on other posts in this thread, another may better answer this for you. Next opportunity I have I will try that though. It will provide more justification for the money I spent.

Thanks!
 
If you are using the offset base in the vertical position, say cutting slots into the face of plywood instead of the sheet ends, the lower part of the base causes misalignment in work pieces. Take a look at the shot 46 seconds into the video in the first post.

Consider trying to join two plywood panels at right angles to each other, edge to face. When cutting into the ends of the plywood it aligns against the silver spacer between the upper and lower (red) sections of the base. When you raise the domino perpendicular to cut the slots in the face the lower part of the base has the rounded area that extends past the sliver spacer causing the alignment to be off.

 
Good observation, thanks. Not much use for a hobbyist then. This is primarily geared for someone joining horizontal pieces of sheet goods it looks like. A Vertical solution would be nice because that's sometimes hard to prevent drift.
 
woodvkk said:
Good observation, thanks. Not much use for a hobbyist then. This is primarily geared for someone joining horizontal pieces of sheet goods it looks like. A Vertical solution would be nice because that's sometimes hard to prevent drift.

[member=59827]woodvkk[/member] I think you are probably correct that the outriggers aren't really of much value for the hobbyist. At least that is how it is for me. I use the base quite often, though. I feel that it really does help stabilize and keep the Domino in place so that the result is perfect mortises. I almost never cut wider slots and just stick with the narrowest slot possible for all cuts since using the offset base. It just allows me to cut the slots so accurately. As I've said, I haven't used the outriggers much. the installation and setup time is greater than the time it takes to mark both boards and cut the slots using the cursor and the lines. While I've never been a quick woodworker, the difference in time and inconvenience is even too much for me. I also like the spacers but, honestly, I could do without those also. In then end, the Domino is a complete tool. While there might be non-Festool accessories out there that improve efficiency, the Domino is a tool unto itself and requires no additions. (That's me but I just love the tool.)
 
I was referring to the base, not the outriggers. If it cannot be used vertically reliably then it is of no use to someone looking to use it primarily for stability esp at that price. I wonder how the domiplate compares on this account.

grbmds said:
woodvkk said:
Good observation, thanks. Not much use for a hobbyist then. This is primarily geared for someone joining horizontal pieces of sheet goods it looks like. A Vertical solution would be nice because that's sometimes hard to prevent drift.

[member=59827]woodvkk[/member] I think you are probably correct that the outriggers aren't really of much value for the hobbyist. At least that is how it is for me. I use the base quite often, though. I feel that it really does help stabilize and keep the Domino in place so that the result is perfect mortises. I almost never cut wider slots and just stick with the narrowest slot possible for all cuts since using the offset base. It just allows me to cut the slots so accurately. As I've said, I haven't used the outriggers much. the installation and setup time is greater than the time it takes to mark both boards and cut the slots using the cursor and the lines. While I've never been a quick woodworker, the difference in time and inconvenience is even too much for me. I also like the spacers but, honestly, I could do without those also. In then end, the Domino is a complete tool. While there might be non-Festool accessories out there that improve efficiency, the Domino is a tool unto itself and requires no additions. (That's me but I just love the tool.)
 
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