Cleantec CT17 as household cleaner

[SHJ NH]

Hi all,

Two questions:

What is the difference between an extractor and a vacuum cleaner?

My wife needs a new vacuum cleaner. The house and garden AEG seems to be broken.
I was looking for a Dyson  [eek]€£$  but maybe is it an idea to use a Festool 17CT as household cleaner?

 

[demographic]

Dunno, can't say I'm blown away by Dysons, the "belt" that drives the  bottom roller was just a fat O ring on the one we had.
Started slipping, burnt out the O ring, replaced, ad infinitum. Plus we had a dog and dog hairs don't work well with cyclonic vacuums.
They stir the dust up and too much ends up hitting the filter instead of stopping in the (too small) cyclone container.

Got a Sebo upright since I launched the Dyson into the nearest skip.

Its no looker but its got a toothed belt that drives the bottom roller and the roller can be removed when there;s too much thread from my wife's sewing room wrapped round it.

 

[tony_sheehan]

I've had a CT17 for quite a while now and think its brilliant. Bit of a lump for household use but not an impossible proposition  (tends to veer off into walls or furniture when you pull it along, especially as it gets fuller and heavier). As you probably know,  it has a power socket for tools which afaik makes it an extractor as well as a vac.

 

[dltflt]

Size is really the only draw back to a ft. We use a CT22 in our house and my wife says it is the best vacuum we have ever had.

 

[AlexThePalex]

What is the difference between an extractor and a vacuum cleaner?

Regarding Festool: nothing.

To be clear, they call it a dust extractor. After the big dust extractors with a cyclone that are connected to stationary tools in a professional workshop. Just Festool marketing speak to emphasise their vacs are mainly meant to be used with a tool to get an almost dust-less experience.

My wife needs a new vacuum cleaner. The house and garden AEG seems to be broken.
I was looking for a Dyson  [eek]€£$  but maybe is it an idea to use a Festool 17CT as household cleaner?

It can work, but getting a 36 mm hose is recommended, the 27 mm hose the CT17 comes with is too thin for good cleaning. It clogs and you have reduced suction.

I am not really that impressed by Festool vacs' pure suction. I use both my CTL26 and Mini for cleaning the house, but I have a small Philips household vac that has way better suction. Problem is, the filter is not as good as those of the Festools, so the whole house gets that 'vac smell' when I use it, while I don't smell anything with the Festools. So I stick with the Festools.

I already have 3 vacs in the house, but if I wanted to get a new one just for house cleaning, I'd get a Numatic Henry. I worked with it and I really like it, very good suction and good filters.

 

[Kev]

We've got top of range Dyson .. noisiest vacuum we've ever had. I actually think it's damaged my wife's hearing [mad]

Depending on surfaces in the home, a power head can be very useful .. so that can be a selection consideration.

To me the bulk of the Festool DC's are not ideal for home cleaning as you tend to move around more and more quickly. Don't know what we'd consider next but noise will be a big consideration.

 

[Birdhunter]

We have a brown dog who sheds incredible amounts of hair. We bought a Landaus vacuum and it is the only vacuum we have found that really picks up dog hair from carpets and hardwood floors. Prior to the Lindhaus, we had tried several of the major brands without success. We had not tried Dyson due to poor reviews. We actually have 2 of the Lindhaus vacuums. One is almost 5 years old. It was reconditioned recently (new belt and internal cleaning) and is again working well.

I've got several Festool vacuums and I just do not see them for household usage. They are great with the Festool products, but not to drag around the house.

 

[SHJ NH]

Thanx for your replies!

I'm Dutch who lives at the German border. In the Netherlands and Germany its not common to have stick vacuum cleaners, but to have the machine separated. I don't know why..?

Normally as household you buy something like a Miele or Philips. I was thinking: why not something more industrial?

 

[Kev]

Thanx for your replies!

I'm Dutch who lives at the German border. In the Netherlands and Germany its not common to have stick vacuum cleaners, but to have the machine separated. I don't know why..?

Normally as household you buy something like a Miele or Philips. I was thinking: why not something more industrial?

Then I'd take a peek at Nilfisk [wink]https://www.nilfisk.com/en/products...opentab-tab-ctl00_m_ModelDetails_ctl00_Tabs_0

 

[AlexThePalex]

I was thinking: why not something more industrial?

Nothing wrong with that. But Festool vacs just don't have the strongest suction. Industrial vacs from other brands like Starmix or Makita often have beter suction than the Festools. The Festools work fine when you connect them with a tool, but for general cleaning they fall just a tad short. Nothing spectactular, they still work, but you have to put in a bit more effort.

But most household vacs I have used the last 5 years have stronger suction than my Festool vacs.

 

[Locky]

i use a ct36AC for our household and we both love it especially the wife its one festool purchase she loves

 

[demographic]

I was thinking: why not something more industrial?

Nothing wrong with that. But Festool vacs just don't have the strongest suction. Industrial vacs from other brands like Starmix or Makita often have beter suction than the Festools. The Festools work fine when you connect them with a tool, but for general cleaning they fall just a tad short. Nothing spectactular, they still work, but you have to put in a bit more effort.

But most household vacs I have used the last 5 years have stronger suction than my Festool vacs.

Fairly sure that Starmix and Festool vacs use the same motors.

 

[tony_sheehan]

We had a Miele for a few months; it was great. Until the wife sucked up some water with it (not by accident either, she didn't realise she wasn't supposed to)

 

[AlexThePalex]

Fairly sure that Starmix and Festool vacs use the same motors.

I can not say anything about that because I don't know. What information do you have that makes you 'fairly' sure? Sounds vague.

I had a Starmix for a while and it was stronger than my Festools. Other people report the same.
 

 

[Jbmccombe]

Last vacuum I got was a Karcher commercial upright. They make it for the hotel industry. Does a great job on wood and carpet and pet hair

 

[demographic]

I can not say anything about that because I don't know. What information do you have that makes you 'fairly' sure? Sounds vague.

I had a Starmix for a while and it was stronger than my Festools. Other people report the same.

I was researching extractors recently and read THIS thread which contained this paragraph.

Now for the shocker - the motor on my CT Midi is made by Domel, the same company that makes the motor for Starmix. And it's NOT made in Germany, but in Slovenia. Please see attached photo.

This is not a big deal to me at all, as motor making is a volume business and efficiency in producing large volumes means getting every little detail right as a recall could bankrupt them. Since Domel has been in the vac motor business for years, supplying Starmix and many others, I actually think it's a pretty wise choice by Festool.

So, my version of "Fairly Sure" is that I read it off the internet from a post by a person who seems fairly well informed and as he put a photo (that I can't see full size because I'm not a member of that forum) up, my rough guess is that he might just be right.

 

[AlexThePalex]

So, my version of "Fairly Sure" is that I read it off the internet from a post by a person who seems fairly well informed and as he put a photo (that I can't see full size because I'm not a member of that forum) up, my rough guess is that he might just be right.

Ah yes, a user that once made 5 (five!) posts on some forum sure is a very reliable source.

Not that I in any way contest that those motors are made by Domel, can be true, but that would only indicate they're from the same manufacturer, and don't necessarily have to be the same models with the same specs.

 

[lunchman]

And in a totally different direction, you might want to consider a robotic vacuum. We've got a Neato Robotics vacuum, going on three years and love it. It does the work, all I do is empty it. And it does a great job with cat hair. One of the best purchases I've ever made since my wife and I hate to vacuum.

 

[Peter_C]

One of the biggest benefits of the bagless vacs is they don't get that nasty smell. My sister has a dog and Miele. My mom has a Miele. Because the bags don't get emptied as often they stink when fired up. I have a Dyson for inside cleaning, and it never smells. It does okay, but won't suck up a leaf thru the hose without plugging. What I do really like about it is there is no smell because it gets emptied often, as in almost every use. Not saying buy a Dyson, but I would recommend something that can be emptied super easy, and one that doesn't use a bag.

For me I do not want the same vacuum cleaner that gets used outside being drug around the house either. I installed hardwood floors and we don't wear shoes in the house, so the last thing I would want is wheels possible with stuff stuck to them rolling around the house, along with the brush head.

Dyson has a pretty cool robotic vac.

 

[McNally Family]

We had a Miele for a few months; it was great. Until the wife sucked up some water with it (not by accident either, she didn't realise she wasn't supposed to)

We would vote for the Miele (which also has the HEPA filter and made in Germany).  We own two, one canister and one upright.  The canister version is now at school with my daughters, and my wife and I use the upright.  I preferred the canister, but my wife did not like dragging it around.  As the dealer told up, there are people who like to "push" and those who like to "pull".

Having said that, I am looking at the Festool dust extractor with the idea of also using it to clean the part of the basement that doubles as a bedroom for my daughters when they are home.