CMS and OF2000

[greg mann]

So far, the official word seems to be the CMS will be compatible with the OF1010 and OF1400 in NA. The OF2200 is a little less clear, although JMB's modification would certainly allow for its mounting. Does anyond know if the table will accept the OF2000 (now discontinued by Festool) as is, or will it work elegantly with some modification?

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Greg, there is no UL approval for use of the OF 2200 or OF 2000 in the CMS for NA.

 

[Jalvis]

From whats being mentioned and hinted on this site is that there is no "Festool" approval for mounting the 2200 in the CMS......Although all the same parts are included.  My take is that any such "modifications" of use is up to the owner. 

 

[greg mann]

Shane, I totally understand your response.  [wink] I guess I am asking someone else to respond to this question: Is the mounting system for NA the same as in Europe and, if so, was there accommodation to mount an OF2000 there. I don't know when the Basis system was phased out and supplanted by the CMS and where in that timeline the OF2000 was introduced and subsequently discontinued. Maybe Alex or another of our European based members can comment on the compatibility of the two. This assumes no significant change between the Euro version of the router plate and the NA version.

 

[bellchippy]

2000 won't fit without modification.

 

[Nigel]

Greg,

In Europe the router mounting kit for the OF1400 and 2200 is the same. Included in the kit are different plastic circular inserts for each router which slot into the hole in the base. It seems Festool USA will be holding back the 1 or 2 ? plastic rings for the OF2200 - verified by Shane in another thread. Therefore all you need to get is the 1 or 2? plastic rings from somewhere........

Anyone know if it's 1 or 2?

 

[tbellemare]

There's a green one to mount the router and an intermediate ring so that the various size inside rings can be used, the same ones that are used with the 1400 & 1010.

Tom

 

[Anders K]

Don't know if it helps, but the old CMS module, "Basis 6 A" would fit both the OF1400 and the OF2000. I don't know what has been changed when they made the plate for the CMS system, but it might be helpful to read the manual for the Basis-Plus system. You can find the manual on the european Festool page http://www.festool.net/webmanual_international/index.php?CHAPTER=2659&L=3577&sLanguage=English under "Basis-Plus system.

Kind regards

Anders

 

[greg mann]

Thanks, Anders. You are more or less confirming that the OF2000 was introduced during the Basis era and perhaps not considered at the time of the CMS introduction in Europe, although that has not yet been ruled out. Somewhere, rattling around in the nether regions of my brain I believe I read somehere in the Euro intro for the CMS that it would accept all four routers (1010, 1400, 2200, and 2000) but that may not be the case. As Shane says, it is not UL approved but it stands to reason if Festool had trouble getting the 2200 approved they certainly would not waste time on the 2000. Can't blame them for that. I will compare the relative layouts of my 1400 to my 2000 and can probably deduce what I will need to do to make it happen, and, I probably won't bother to submit for UL approval either.  :-X

 

[jmbfestool]

Greg,

In Europe the router mounting kit for the OF1400 and 2200 is the same. Included in the kit are different plastic circular inserts for each router which slot into the hole in the base. It seems Festool USA will be holding back the 1 or 2 ? plastic rings for the OF2200 - verified by Shane in another thread. Therefore all you need to get is the 1 or 2? plastic rings from somewhere........

Anyone know if it's 1 or 2?

One green ring for the OF2200.

I glued mine in so mine is permanently fixed in cus im not planning on sticking a different router in the CMS.  Even if I was to get the  smaller Festool router the OF2200 will be to one which would go into the CMS.    The ring does not click into place just gravity keeps it in place untill the router is fixed in position so it always kept falling out on me hence why I glued it.

Their is another clear plastic COVER which is to go onto the OF2200 router but its not required for fitting the OF2200 to the CMS its just to stop the dust going into the router ratcheting part but I forget to put mine in 90% of the time and my router is doing fine  [unsure]

JMB

 

[Anders K]

Thanks, Anders. You are more or less confirming that the OF2000 was introduced during the Basis era and perhaps not considered at the time of the CMS introduction in Europe, although that has not yet been ruled out. Somewhere, rattling around in the nether regions of my brain I believe I read somehere in the Euro intro for the CMS that it would accept all four routers (1010, 1400, 2200, and 2000) but that may not be the case. As Shane says, it is not UL approved but it stands to reason if Festool had trouble getting the 2200 approved they certainly would not waste time on the 2000. Can't blame them for that. I will compare the relative layouts of my 1400 to my 2000 and can probably deduce what I will need to do to make it happen, and, I probably won't bother to submit for UL approval either.  :-X

I have just checked an old Festool catalogue from 2007, and there was a module called CMS-OF 1400/2000. The main difference between this module and the new one, seems to be the height adjustment above the table for the new one.
I've tried to find the manual for this module, but with no luck. Perhaps you could contact a European Festool dealer?

 

[IWT-Tom]

I'm a bit late on this, but just to confirm, the OF2000 will not fit in the CMS 2200 Module.  We had a customer enquiring about it last week and I spent some time trying to work out how it might work and it basically wouldn't. 

 

[Jeff Zanin]

I have no specific information on the OF2000/2200 or the CMS, and I understand there may be ways to mount the OF2000/2200 in spite of what is UL approved and supported by Festool USA, but the images of the CMS I have seen also include some wiring / switches.

Is it not the case that European tools are operating at 230V vs. North American tools operating at 120V? 

So could it be that the current needed by the big routers at 120V is more than what the CMS wiring was designed to handle?

Jeff

 

[greg mann]

I have no specific information on the OF2000/2200 or the CMS, and I understand there may be ways to mount the OF2000/2200 in spite of what is UL approved and supported by Festool USA, but the images of the CMS I have seen also include some wiring / switches.

Is it not the case that European tools are operating at 230V vs. North American tools operating at 120V? 

So could it be that the current needed by the big routers at 120V is more than what the CMS wiring was designed to handle?

Jeff

Jeff,

It would probably depend on whether the DC needed to run through the CMS switch along with the router. It the CMS wiring needed to support both it would need to be pretty robust, even for the 1400.

 

[tbellemare]

Only the router runs through the CMS switch. The router plugs into the switch and the switch into the CT or wall.

Tom