i was looking at the pictures and the components are probable the same for the vl and mft. you could buy the comon parts in the states and get some kind fogger to ship the remaining parts. all you would need is the inserts , the top for the inserts to fit into and the back rail to attach it to the mft. your own switch etc could be used.
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I dont want to hijack this thread but can anyone from experience, give advice on what is the best set up, either the stand alone CMS base unit or alternatively the MFT3 VL extension table which also takes the CMS base inserts
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In a workshop it would be good to have to a stand alone CMS but if on site the MFT3 VL Extension would seem more sensible.
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In a workshop it would be good to have to a stand alone CMS but if on site the MFT3 VL Extension would seem more sensible.
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Trust me guys, they really, really want to get us the CMS system.
I doubt you will see anything offered other then the router module.
The switch may have been the biggest hurdle of the whole thing.
I doubt you will see anything offered other then the router module.
The switch may have been the biggest hurdle of the whole thing.
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Guy Ashley said:
Guy, there is no answer to that other than this one: personal preference.
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Yeah, I suppose your right. Just hoped someone out there had had the benefit and experience of using both and could tilt me one way or the other with the pro's and cons of each set up. [scratch chin]
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Well, you get the exact same functionality with both set ups.
Only difference is that when you have the MFT attached you have a bigger side table so it's easier to work with long pieces. But there's also a seperate wing extension available for the CMS.
I personally think the stand alone unit is more comfortable. If you need to do a job that doesn't require the bigger MFT, you can bring only the CMS with you and leave the MFT at home. On the other hand, if you have an MFT and plan to use the CMS only in a shop with limited space, the extension table might be the best choice.
Only difference is that when you have the MFT attached you have a bigger side table so it's easier to work with long pieces. But there's also a seperate wing extension available for the CMS.
I personally think the stand alone unit is more comfortable. If you need to do a job that doesn't require the bigger MFT, you can bring only the CMS with you and leave the MFT at home. On the other hand, if you have an MFT and plan to use the CMS only in a shop with limited space, the extension table might be the best choice.
my "table saw" is a cms module for the ts55. i use the stand-alone cms unit although i have the vb-cms as well, which works exactly like the mft-vl except it connects to the cms-ge. that means i have two module plates right next to each other and a nice table extension. i have my router mounted right next to the ts and it never gets in the way or anything. like that, i only have to recalibrate the saw setup when i work with the ts handheld and not everytime i need to rout something or use my trion in the cms as a "bandsaw".
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there are two different cms-vb. one is the one that you have (which actually i also had, firstly) and the other one is basically a mft-vl without the switch and shorter, so that it connects to the cms-ge.
it comes with an aluminum insert, that can be swapped for cms modules. it is not recommended (i think its even forbidden) though (it is obviously intended to do so anyways) by the berufsgenossenschaft, which would be the ul in the us. thus it has a plastic cover that has no other use than to make it impossible to fit the cms modules in the cms-vb. it is connected by three screws and does not have any other function, so can be removed no problem.
in the picture you see my cms-of 1400 connected to the vac hose on the left while the cms-ts 55 is connected on the right. you would never actually use both modules at the same time, obviously. the only drawback of using the router table in the vb-cms instead of in the cms-ge is the lack of the sliding table. it can be moved (although not actually fastened, but used ok) to the vb-cms though. a nice feature of the vb-cms is, that the side profile is the same as in the mft, which gives you a lot of options for stops and things (having a t-track and a v-groove opposed to the cms-ge, which only has a v-groove).
there are two different cms-vb. one is the one that you have (which actually i also had, firstly) and the other one is basically a mft-vl without the switch and shorter, so that it connects to the cms-ge.
it comes with an aluminum insert, that can be swapped for cms modules. it is not recommended (i think its even forbidden) though (it is obviously intended to do so anyways) by the berufsgenossenschaft, which would be the ul in the us. thus it has a plastic cover that has no other use than to make it impossible to fit the cms modules in the cms-vb. it is connected by three screws and does not have any other function, so can be removed no problem.
in the picture you see my cms-of 1400 connected to the vac hose on the left while the cms-ts 55 is connected on the right. you would never actually use both modules at the same time, obviously. the only drawback of using the router table in the vb-cms instead of in the cms-ge is the lack of the sliding table. it can be moved (although not actually fastened, but used ok) to the vb-cms though. a nice feature of the vb-cms is, that the side profile is the same as in the mft, which gives you a lot of options for stops and things (having a t-track and a v-groove opposed to the cms-ge, which only has a v-groove).
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