Cool 32mm adjustable shelf jig by Veritas

How much did you pay for it?  I posted it on here because I wanted some feedback and thought maybe it could be an alternative to the $5,000 setup festool has.
 
Thats pretty nice.. Does it have a pin the fits into the previous hole to line up the next hole?  Was there a fence to set the distance from the edge to the center of the hole?  Couldn't tell much from the picture.  The biggest difference between the 2 is that one if a lot quicker and more expensive and so is extremely slow and cheap.
 
ForumMFG said:
How much did you pay for it?  I posted it on here because I wanted some feedback and thought maybe it could be an alternative to the $5,000 setup festool has.
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Festool's LR32 hole drilling system isn't inexpensive but it's not $5,000. I wouldn't want anyone to be confused by your post. 
 
For more information about the Veritas kit, check:

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=42200&cat=1,180,42311

Festool USA has some tutorials, including Brice's excellent writeup:

http://www.festoolusa.com/products/routers/hole-drilling-system/lr-32-hole-drilling-set-in-systainer-583291.html

The functional differences I see are that Festool uses a router bit to drill instead of a drill bit, and Festool offers the capability to bore a 35mm hole for hinges.  How does Veritas take care of the 35mm hole?  When you add the cost of a 35mm bit or Forstner drill, plus jig, the cost difference between the two options doesn't look that great, at least not to me.
 
Brice Burrell said:
ForumMFG said:
How much did you pay for it?  I posted it on here because I wanted some feedback and thought maybe it could be an alternative to the $5,000 setup festool has.
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Festool's LR32 hole drilling system isn't inexpensive but it's not $5,000. I wouldn't want anyone to be confused by your post.  
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I was just joking around.  It's not $5000 but it is $500 if you buy the systainer kit with the guide rail or $300 if you don't buy the systainer kit and just buy the kit with out the systainer and extras and buy the guide rail.
 
You're right. I definitely DO NOT build bookcases everyday. I'm just a hobbyst when it comes to woodworking. If I were a woodworking professional I would not be looking at Veritas or Hartville stuff. That's for amateurs. The real pros have pro-grade machinery.

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irvin00 said:
this one is cheap and good:

http://www.hartvilletool.com/product/12329
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So do you drill 1 hole then move it and drill another hole and then move it...and so on?
I hope you don't build bookshelf everyday!!!! :)    I couldn't do it.
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This is cool ;) Forget the fancy stuff, lets get it on with a Domino shelf drilling jig. Works a treat.  Super fast and accurate. Ill give a detailed rundown very soon with how to on home made Domi shelf supports. Gotta love the Domino ;D 

Edit - Thats a 5mm Domino mortice, tomorrow i will do another with the 4mm cutter and see how it looks.
 
I'm a so called "pro" and as mentioned using in all the time. Off course a big stationary one would be cool but is not always practical... Yesterday, I had to retro fit a cabinet with shelves. Was super easy, I clamped the Veritas jig into the cabinet and within no time I had a row of holes drilled.

This Jig is worth it's money, no matter if your are a "pro" or not.

 
Tezzer said:
This is cool ;) Forget the fancy stuff, lets get it on with a Domino shelf drilling jig. Works a treat.  Super fast and accurate. Ill give a detailed rundown very soon with how to on home made Domi shelf supports. Gotta love the Domino ;D 

Edit - Thats a 5mm Domino mortice, tomorrow i will do another with the 4mm cutter and see how it looks.
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Tezzer, that looks sweet.  Are there two dominos in the back of that board to register in the previously drilled holes?  It looks like the dominos at the end work as end points to register the machine against.  I'd like to know how you make the shelf supports.
 
Tezzer said:
This is cool ;) Forget the fancy stuff, lets get it on with a Domino shelf drilling jig. Works a treat.  Super fast and accurate. Ill give a detailed rundown very soon with how to on home made Domi shelf supports. Gotta love the Domino ;D 

Edit - Thats a 5mm Domino mortice, tomorrow i will do another with the 4mm cutter and see how it looks.
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Tezzer,

There is no doubt your Domino tenon based shelf support system will work very well.  But if the woodworker or customer wants to use one of the many supports designed for round holes, or adjustable metal shelf supports as in the Euro 32 mm system, the Domino shaped mortices are not suitable.

Re the Hartville and Veritas jigs:  as Brice stated, the cost of Festool's shelf hole drilling system is not that great if you view the holed FS 1080/2-LR 32 Guide Rail (Item #491621) as a multiple use accessory and you have or plan to obtain a Festool 1010 or 1400 router.  I bought the basic LR 32 Hole Drilling Set  (Item #583290) which includes only the router base plate and the Edge Stops (Item #485758).  The Edge Stops are also very useful for repeat ripcutting of strips.  If you substitute longer rods (metal or wooden dowels) in these Edge Stops, you can use them to consistently rip wide panels from sheet goods, or to place rows of router drilled holes well back from a reference edge, as I did when constructing my large storage cabinet.  That project required 5 rows of shelf pin (Euro screw) holes in each side.  Note that cabinet now has a 6th pull out shelf at the bottom.
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I apologize if any so-called "pros' were offended by my statement that a real pro will get pro-grade machinery instead of the Veritas (and my own Hartville suggestion) jig.

My post was not intended to belittle the little guy that, for whatever the reason, has to settle for any particular jig. My point is that there are a few  in this board who are ready to criticize anyone who dares present alternative views. No different than a big shot with a cabinet factory full of expensive production machines coming here to tell everyone that using their  Festool hole system (or worse, their Veritas!) is pathetic. That, in essense, is the feeback my little suggestion received from a couple of wannabe (wannabes if judged by their own standards, of course!) pros.

So, eco-furniture: receive my sincere apologies (along with all other real pros). My post was NOT meant to disrespect you.

EcoFurniture said:
I'm a so called "pro" and as mentioned using in all the time. Off course a big stationary one would be cool but is not always practical... Yesterday, I had to retro fit a cabinet with shelves. Was super easy, I clamped the Veritas jig into the cabinet and within no time I had a row of holes drilled.

This Jig is worth it's money, no matter if your are a "pro" or not.
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irvin00 said:
I apologize if any so-called "pros' were offended by my statement that a real pro will get pro-grade machinery instead of the Veritas (and my own Hartville suggestion) jig.

My post was not intended to belittle the little guy that, for whatever the reason, has to settle for any particular jig. My point is that there are a few asses in this board who are ready to criticize anyone who dares present alternative views. No different than a big shot with a cabinet factory full of expensive production machines coming here to tell everyone that using their sh*tty Festool hole system (or worse, their Veritas!) is pathetic. That, in essense, is the feeback my little suggestion received from a couple of wannabe (wannabes if judged by their own standards, of course!) pros.

So, eco-furniture: receive my sincere apologies (along with all other real pros). My post was NOT meant to disrespect you.

EcoFurniture said:
No worries! It's all good ;)
I'm a so called "pro" and as mentioned using in all the time. Off course a big stationary one would be cool but is not always practical... Yesterday, I had to retro fit a cabinet with shelves. Was super easy, I clamped the Veritas jig into the cabinet and within no time I had a row of holes drilled.

This Jig is worth it's money, no matter if your are a "pro" or not.
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joez71 said:
Heres a video you guys might find interesting
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Very nice, thanks for the link.  I really liked those shelf supports!  I wonder how he keeps the shelf from sliding forward in use?

I've been thinking about a similar jig, but it would be made with two rows of 5mm holes spaced 32mm horizontally, each 74mm apart so that the pins in the face of the domino would index in the holes.  Shouldn't be that difficult to make with the LR 32.  That way, the domi never squirms while boring the slots.

Haven't been motivated to make it yet, because I like standard 5mm shelf supports just fine.

Regards,

John
 
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