corded vacuum CT-SYS with variable speed and remote control?

[Cheese]

Worse was that the cordless was released when new larger batteries were released, but they don't fit.

THIS...what were they thinking?

 

[woodbutcherbower]

THIS...what were they thinking?

The were probably thinking about the upcoming 'Sys-D-Gen' diesel-generator-in-a-Systainer which hooks up to a vast bank of batteries which would make the 15-minute runtime a thing of the past. Yours for just $10,000, sir. 

 

[Willy Eckerslike]

I've fitted the adjustable nozzle (supplied as standard on the cordless version (which has variable suction)) to my corded CTL-SYS and that has helped to some degree.

 

[slavi.yordanov]

Worse was that the cordless was released when new larger batteries were released, but they don't fit.

THIS...what were they thinking?

They definitely didn't try to vacuum a normal sized room as their advertising suggests. What makes it even worse is the high failure rate of 4.0 batteries. I have about 10 of those, and half of them would not fully charge, or they discharge faster than the good ones. I had to test all of them and mark them as pairs. (facepalm)

 

[jeh]

Festool does have a captive audience with the FOG and why wouldn't you query the folks that use your tools the most? That seems to be the most prudent approach.

So Festool Corporate...how about some more REALLY honest customer survey questions that dig into the needs of the actual full time tool user and give less weight to the Festool influencers that are actually (part time users) and just on the Festool lunch line even though it may be less obvious.

FOG like every other Internet forum is not representative of the core users of their products. Way too many hobbyists here to be of much value unless they are going to market exclusively to hobbyists.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Festool does have a captive audience with the FOG and why wouldn't you query the folks that use your tools the most? That seems to be the most prudent approach.

So Festool Corporate...how about some more REALLY honest customer survey questions that dig into the needs of the actual full time tool user and give less weight to the Festool influencers that are actually (part time users) and just on the Festool lunch line even though it may be less obvious.

FOG like every other Internet forum is not representative of the core users of their products. Way too many hobbyists here to be of much value unless they are going to market exclusively to hobbyists.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if hobbyists form the bulk of the users for some of the tool lines.

 

[SoonerFan]

Oh how I wish Festool would have a 100 year anniversary corded CT SYS with variable suction. And yes I know this is very unlikely. Would have been great last weekend when I fixed the some door trim at a friends house.  It was a small/quick job. Just a few minutes with a track saw and some clean up. But to complete it I needed to unplug my Midi, remove it from under my Kapex, get a longer hose, pack it in the truck, and then reverse the steps when done.  While the battery version would have worked for this time, I have very few other use cases for cordless so guess I will lug around the Midi. 

 

[mino]

The problem is techno-social. It is not possible to solve, no matter the money thrown at it.

1) It is not possible to make as small a vac with separate air flow for motor cooling.

2) When used for sanding, there is almost zero airflow, this makes it impossible to reliably cool a through-flow motor on a high duty cycle basis. A few minutes is fine as the motor takes time to to heat up. *)

3) Once you make a super-small vac that is mechanically suitable for sanding, people WILL use it for that, no matter how much you state to not do that => bad reputation, warranty claims, etc.

The only way around this problem is to take the full-scale CT MINI motor assembly and install it into a systainer chassis with a form factor of SYS 337 or so. Maybe even re-use the MINI/MIDI bags. But there is no way to make a long duty cycle vac in the original CT SYS form factor. Even the CTC motor unit is slightly bigger ..

Combined with the SYS-CART and CT-VA such a mini-vac would be very much usable even in a shop setting. But it will no longer be a vac you take up a ladder ..

On another tone, the CTL-SYS is still made and sold in Europe. That it is NAINA is a sales decision by FUSA I presume or that they are just selling on existing stock. Hard to tell. But it is marketed and available in Germany.

*) this is likely why the variable-suction CTC does not support the bigger batteries - it may be overloaded by prolonged use an 8Ah pack would enable. So why complicate the design to give that tool-destroying option..

 

[rst]

I have the corded CT-SYS, love the long cord. I replaced the original hose with the new braid covered one that has the adjustable suction tool ended. It’s great for car cleaning and small
Tool usage.