Cordless Mafell P1CC.
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What is prehistoric about it?
I had a Skil D handle for years... that was prehistoric.
Then I upgraded to a corded Carvex D... Then I thought cordless and barrel would be better. Enter Carvex PSC 420.
I just recently purchased the P1CC... blown away!
Dust collection is amazing - can actually see my line. Integrates with track and comes with very useful accessories. Splinter guard works really well. Blade doesn't get hot and bend. Ergonomics are great. Switch is actually in a good/safe location unlike the Carvex. Oh yeah, it has a cord... I don't even notice the cord - especially since I actually use dust collection with a jigsaw now.
I was on a push to get as many cordless tools as I could. Then I realized how much time I spend swapping batteries and emptying bags with the TSC and how a cord isn't a big deal if you have a dust hose anyway.
Enter MT55 and P1CC... couldn't be happier now.
And I decided to keep my corded Fein MM - even though I bitch about winding the cord to put it back in the systainer.
I definitely had the 'grass is greener' mentality about corded vs cordless. I've learned the expensive way that cordless is great for certain things but not every tool needs a battery.
I had a Skil D handle for years... that was prehistoric.
Then I upgraded to a corded Carvex D... Then I thought cordless and barrel would be better. Enter Carvex PSC 420.
I just recently purchased the P1CC... blown away!
Dust collection is amazing - can actually see my line. Integrates with track and comes with very useful accessories. Splinter guard works really well. Blade doesn't get hot and bend. Ergonomics are great. Switch is actually in a good/safe location unlike the Carvex. Oh yeah, it has a cord... I don't even notice the cord - especially since I actually use dust collection with a jigsaw now.
I was on a push to get as many cordless tools as I could. Then I realized how much time I spend swapping batteries and emptying bags with the TSC and how a cord isn't a big deal if you have a dust hose anyway.
Enter MT55 and P1CC... couldn't be happier now.
And I decided to keep my corded Fein MM - even though I bitch about winding the cord to put it back in the systainer.
I definitely had the 'grass is greener' mentality about corded vs cordless. I've learned the expensive way that cordless is great for certain things but not every tool needs a battery.
Lbob131 said:
If you consider the best jigsaw available anywhere (by a wide margin) to be "prehistoric", then I'd suggest that you aren't really Mafell's type of customer, & respectfully suggest that you look elsewhere if you're seeking gimmickry over performance.
Apart from winning an ID design award for its "inferior" performance, it has almost universal acclaim from users, at least those with whom I've had contact.
The only criticism that I can legitimately level @ the Mafell P1 CC is that some other (non-Festool) German-made brands seem to perform better in thicker (say 5-10mm) plate steel. In every other way, and in every use that I've applied my Mafell Jigsaw to, it's just a better mousetrap.
Mafell's range generally seems to be more specifically targeted at professional users rather than the DIY market. Ergo, they tend to be more performance-oriented & rather light-on for gewgaws & farckles.
usernumber1
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i have to agree the corded is the prehistoric part.
obvious portability advantages; the brushless DC motors do offer as well: more start torque, speed control, instant stop, quick start
they came out with that cuprex motor in 2006 - everyone and their dog is moving or moved to cordless: bosh fein hilti. these aren't exactly consumer brands either.
maffell has a cordless saw and plunge saw, and a battery system so i think they are just milking it now
obvious portability advantages; the brushless DC motors do offer as well: more start torque, speed control, instant stop, quick start
they came out with that cuprex motor in 2006 - everyone and their dog is moving or moved to cordless: bosh fein hilti. these aren't exactly consumer brands either.
maffell has a cordless saw and plunge saw, and a battery system so i think they are just milking it now
Jiggy Joiner
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The P1CC is top dog in jig saw dept, no question.
The only gripe I hear from owners of them, is the lack of LED.
A cordless version would be welcomed by many, including me. I’m sure it will happen, it’s just Mafell do things at their pace, they always have.
The only gripe I hear from owners of them, is the lack of LED.
A cordless version would be welcomed by many, including me. I’m sure it will happen, it’s just Mafell do things at their pace, they always have.
Is it possible that the P1cc keeps the blade lower in the cut when the machine is on full upstroke?
I ask this because I have some 130mm metal cutting metabo blades. 110mm of cutting teeth.
When I cut 80mm composite panel, on the full upstroke of my Festool Trion the blade rises above the low side.
Which makes cutting impossible. The machine just jumps out damaging the low side.
About 75mm of blade is available on the full upstroke.
On our last job we cut at least 100m of composite panel. Cutting one side first,then turning the panel over to cut the other side.
Using a combination of Bosch and Metabo cordless jig saws.
Now have another job with at least 100m to be cut.
And don't mind dragging a lead if it works.
When my trion is on full down stroke, I notice that 10mm of the blade is still available.
All I need is a 10mm lower machine.
The blades I'm using are Metabo Best- Nr 6.23978
I know some will say just purchase a longer blade.
But I'm thinking if the Mafell achieves what I outlined above it would be a better option.
And a game changer
Plus a more accurate cut should be possible.
Ideally I would take my composite panel to someone who owns a P1cc and try it out.
I ask this because I have some 130mm metal cutting metabo blades. 110mm of cutting teeth.
When I cut 80mm composite panel, on the full upstroke of my Festool Trion the blade rises above the low side.
Which makes cutting impossible. The machine just jumps out damaging the low side.
About 75mm of blade is available on the full upstroke.
On our last job we cut at least 100m of composite panel. Cutting one side first,then turning the panel over to cut the other side.
Using a combination of Bosch and Metabo cordless jig saws.
Now have another job with at least 100m to be cut.
And don't mind dragging a lead if it works.
When my trion is on full down stroke, I notice that 10mm of the blade is still available.
All I need is a 10mm lower machine.
The blades I'm using are Metabo Best- Nr 6.23978
I know some will say just purchase a longer blade.
But I'm thinking if the Mafell achieves what I outlined above it would be a better option.
And a game changer
Plus a more accurate cut should be possible.
Ideally I would take my composite panel to someone who owns a P1cc and try it out.
jarbroen said:
I got myself this one: link (And I use the sys 1 version to store the sharpening stuff for the sawblades.)
Lbob131 said:
If you plan on buying locally, you could also take a piece of the material and a sawblade to the toolstore.
I read a jigsawreview from a Dutch toolstore, that says that the mafell sits 10 to 12 mm lower, because of the lack of the lower guides, and I searched for the stroke length of the trion, which another review says it's 26 mm (the mafell has 25 mm stroke) so it might just work.
Cheese
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I own the P1 cc and it’s a thing of beauty. There are so many things on that jiggy that make you smile.
However, the biggest bonehead move on Mafell’s part was to not incorporate LED’s into the body of the saw. The dust collection is stellar while the blade guidance is beyond reproach.
No more of those stupid blade guides which just prematurely burn up blades and flex when cutting a radius.
I love the P1 cc but Mafell should have stretched that little bit more and then it would have been a slam-dunk.
However, the biggest bonehead move on Mafell’s part was to not incorporate LED’s into the body of the saw. The dust collection is stellar while the blade guidance is beyond reproach.
No more of those stupid blade guides which just prematurely burn up blades and flex when cutting a radius.
I love the P1 cc but Mafell should have stretched that little bit more and then it would have been a slam-dunk.
Cheese said:
I would not say it was a bonehead move or lack of a stretch by Mafell. They are much smaller company than Festool with a proportionally smaller engineering staff. Their goal is to design a tool with the goal of it lasting as long as possible without requiring a redesign. Up until a few years ago no power tools had LED's and Mafell probably was not willing to gamble on them.
I do agree it would be nice to have one and at some point it will just probably not anytime soon. Too many pluses to worry about a missing LED.
Yes - the P1CC is great. I agree that it was released when LED lights were still primarily on drills only. I do not think it is a big deal on the jigsaw - I turn them off on my other saws for most cuts as I do not think it aids the cut that much anyway.
yetihunter
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I am not new to Mafell, and I am indeed their customer.
A cordless P1CC would be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
A cordless P1CC would be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
