Corner grooving ?

[tjbnwi]

some pics of door bottom seal

nice that button actuate the seal ?

The one Unity posted is an auto sweep, the button hits another button in the jamb, drops in place with the door closed.

They can be finicky to set.

Tom

 

[Billy stray]

some pics of door bottom seal

nice that button actuate the seal ?

The one Unity posted is an auto sweep, the button hits another button in the jamb, drops in place with the door closed.

They can be finicky to set.
Ugh just what I needed to hear it's just become a request for both doors , oh yeah they added another exterior  " dutch" door , I guess it's time to tool up . Wats the name of that clear plastic double sided guide for the 1400 ? I've never even seen one until I started researching all this weather stripping...
Tom

 

[tjbnwi]

Here you go. I do multi point locks, the Edge Routing Template works.

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/60/products_id/10800

You can also use 2 edge guides to pinch the door between them. This is the 1010 with the 2200 edge guide, 1010 edge guide and the 1400 rods.

Tom

 

[Billy stray]

Ahh , already have one side , should work fine as long as I'm careful
buying another side may be cheaper than buy the intended jig....hmmm

 

[Billy stray]

Wow !! 328$ definitely cheaper [eek]

 

[tjbnwi]

Wow !! 328$ definitely cheaper [eek]

There is a lot more to it than one would think. Like most (if not all Festools sticker shock only lasts until you use it).

Tom

 

[Billy stray]

Wow !! 328$ definitely cheaper [eek]

There is a lot more to it than one would think. Like most (if not all Festools sticker shock only lasts until you use it).

Tom

yeah for sure, I saw Gary Katz using it, it has a cent er r rule and practically lays itself out, the problem is I'm trying to get the job to pay and pay for the Domino XL I would love to have to do it

 

[tiralie]

RCT also markets a silicone in place bead.

Tom [member=4105]tjbnwi[/member] :
Have you used the silicone in place bead, and does it hold in use or would you advise the push in to groove type.
Tim

 

[tjbnwi]

RCT also markets a silicone in place bead.

Tom [member=4105]tjbnwi[/member] :
Have you used the silicone in place bead, and does it hold in use or would you advise the push in to groove type.
Tim

I have not, I believe Justin has. I’ll ask him to respond. He doesn’t come up using the @.

Tom

 

[tiralie]

RCT also markets a silicone in place bead.

Tom [member=4105]tjbnwi[/member] :
Have you used the silicone in place bead, and does it hold in use or would you advise the push in to groove type.
Tim

I have not, I believe Justin has. I’ll ask him to respond. He doesn’t come up using the @.

Tom

Justin got in touch with me via Instagram and said he did use silicon in place on steel doors but it was difficult to keep the seal in place while the silicon dried. He did say the mechanical or groove was better. Said the new version of the groover was better.
Thanks again.
Tim

 

[tjbnwi]

[member=7816]Tim Raleigh[/member],

Thanks for letting me know. Someday I should do Instagram.....

Tom

 

[gunnyr]

I went down this rabbit hole a couple of years ago.  The corner grooving tool can be rented or purchased from Conservation Technology.  They also sell all kinds of weatherseals.  I spoke with them on the phone and they were exceptionally helpful.

Ultimately the customer was not willing to pay what I needed to get out of the job to rent the grooving machine so I ended up attaching the tube type seal with silicone, like Justin said it was a pain to keep in place while the silicone set up.  In the end the customer was ecstatic with their well sealed door and I made a little money.  Win, win! [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

 

[tjbnwi]

[member=7816]Tim Raleigh[/member],

I can ship you the router if you wish. Send it back when you’re done.

It is the Conservation Tech gunnyr mentioned.

Tom

 

[tiralie]

I can ship you the router if you wish. Send it back when you’re done.

[member=4105]tjbnwi[/member]
Thanks Tom, very gracious of you.
I will take you up on that. I don't need it now, still waiting for the sealed glass unit for that door, but if you have time send it up. The project has been approved.
I need to order some seals and door sweeps from conservation technology

When I send it back I will send you the CAT, detailing gun if you want. I have not used it yet, but you are welcome if you want.

Let me know.
Tim

BTW, there is a fairly active carpenter, finish carpentry, cabinetmaker, painting (spraying and brushing etc.) network on Instagram and they are very helpful as evidenced by Justin's note to me. It is also quite entertaining following some of these guys like carpenterone3. Not the same as the old JLC boards, but because of the use of video along with photo's you can get insight into how others do things.

Warning: it does induce more tool purchases, as if we need more help in that area.
Let me know if you join. I will follow.
Tim

 

[tjbnwi]

[member=7816]Tim Raleigh[/member],

Don’t order the seals yet. I’ll send you what I have. Use what you need, send the rest back.

Tom

 

[Oldwood]

We used the Q-lon seals and cut the with a saw mounted on the shaper spindle. After they were sawn we would plane the face with the shaper to clean up the face and also it gives a little clearance for the seal to collapse while not binding against the jamb. This worked fine for straight jambs but gets complicated with curved jambs.

As Tom says the drop down sill seal can be tricky to adjust. I used a flat head screw for the button it hits on the jamb and this gives you another option for adjusting. We only used these on commercial jobs where the sill needed to be flat. On residential we would use a sill that accepted the same Q-lon seal. This gives you a continuous seal all around the the door where the bottom style seal can leave a spot between the sill and jamb seal where you can get air leakage. There are various ways to deal with this but mostly a felt pad on the jamb is used.

 

 

[tiralie]

[member=7816]Tim Raleigh[/member],

Don’t order the seals yet. I’ll send you what I have. Use what you need, send the rest back.

Tom

[member=4105]tjbnwi[/member]
Thanks, will do.
Tim