CT 22 and dust deputy?

[Charles Wilson]

Anyone use a set up like this to extend the bag and filter?  If so, what are the results?

Thanks,
Chuck

 

[Brice Burrell]

Charles, I've used my clear vue mini with my 22, works great.

 

[T. Michael]

I have both a dust deputy and a clear view.  Both work great.  Fun to watch the debris swirl in teh clear view. The DD is steel; smaller cyclone; works well too.  But the dimensions of the inlet and outlet are an odd 1.5 inches; or special order, 2.0 inches; both need an adapter to standard 2.25 hose diameter for a shop vac, or input to the CT33.  Or, you can buy their hoses; non grounded.

And, getting ground to your anti-static hose from the CT was a mystery for a while until I just looped a piece of heavy copper wire from one hose on the inlet to the one on the outlet.

Haven't changed a bag for a long time; but have emptyed the barrel several times.

Mike

 

[Dave Rudy]

I have both a dust deputy and a clear view. 
Mike

Mike,
How does the clear vue work and how do you get antistatic connection to its hoses?

Dave

 

[Dave Ronyak]

I have both a dust deputy and a clear view.  Both work great.  Fun to watch the debris swirl in teh clear view. The DD is steel; smaller cyclone; works well too.  But the dimensions of the inlet and outlet are an odd 1.5 inches; or special order, 2.0 inches; both need an adapter to standard 2.25 hose diameter for a shop vac, or input to the CT33.  Or, you can buy their hoses; non grounded.

And, getting ground to your anti-static hose from the CT was a mystery for a while until I just looped a piece of heavy copper wire from one hose on the inlet to the one on the outlet.

Haven't changed a bag for a long time; but have emptyed the barrel several times.

Mike

Mike,

I should receive my steel DD from Oneida this week, the one with the larger hose openings.  Their catalogue claims their hoses are antistatic.  Maybe that applies only to their wire reinforced hoses of larger diameters.

Dave R.

 

[3mbjts]

Can anyone lead me to any posts showing pictures of the Dust Deputy hooked up to their CT 22?
Thanks, Mike

 

[Les]

Mike,

Check this one. Reply #8.

 

[3mbjts]

Les,
Thanks for the guidance. Still trying to decide on either the ClearVue or the Dust Deputy. These post will help.
Mike

 

[Phil B]

I have one of these, I?m a bit divided as to how well it works at this point.  As mentioned the inlet / outlet ports are kind of an odd size and I?ve had several clogs when doing general cleanup with mine due to the small diameters.  For general chip collection it seems to work well, I?m not so sure about fine dust and need to do more investigation on this.

I?ve tried using plastic drywall buckets but the CT22 collapses these pretty quickly, I use 5 gal metal buckets now but I have a suspicion that these are a bit short for optimal performance and 5 gallons is quite small anyway depending on what you are doing.

I haven?t found a way to make an elegant connection to the whole business, that kind of bothers me.

PMBhttp://benchmark.20m.com

 

[Tinker]

Phil,
I have made some comment about making connections where fittings don't match up properly.  Look at the discussion "Cyclones/wFesool".  I have made all the hookups needed using the Fernco rubber sleeves mentioned.  I am using 5gal plastic paint buckets, but have not put them thru a solid period of work, so i cannot comment on the collapsing problem.  Once I get myself setup for serius working, I will see what happens.  I am not ever going to be real busy by your standards, I am sure, but i will see what happens on the hobbyist scale.
Tinker

 

[Phil B]

I?m currently using black electricians tape and sections of plastic conduit to make my transitions at the cyclone, works okay, not what I would want permanently.  After I?ve done some more experiments with drywall and sanding dust I?ll determine how much effort to put into integrating a solution.  The joint compound plastic cans I have tried collapse pretty quick on full power.

On a side note, as an experiment, I once turned a large systainer into a drop-box type pre-filter, worked pretty bad compared to the dust deputy.

PMBhttp://benchmark.20m.com

 

[Tinker]

I?m currently using black electricians tape and sections of plastic conduit to make my transitions at the cyclone, works okay, not what I would want permanently.  After I?ve done some more experiments with drywall and sanding dust I?ll determine how much effort to put into integrating a solution.  The joint compound plastic cans I have tried collapse pretty quick on full power.

On a side note, as an experiment, I once turned a large systainer into a drop-box type pre-filter, worked pretty bad compared to the dust deputy.

PMBhttp://benchmark.20m.com

Phil,
I treid to colapse my 5gal paint bucket with both my CT 33 and my Milwaukee shop vac.  The hoses got real tight and stiff but after two or three minutes of full vacuum, i could not colapse the bucket.  I think my paint buckets are reinforced a little more solidly than tape compound buckets.  They have about 3 ribs within the top 3 inches of the bucket.  With the Fernco fittings and a foam collar on the cyclone cover, there seems to be no air escaping anywhere.  The suction was able to slow the vacs appreciably, but no colapsed pails.

If i run into a problem later when I put the system to work, I will report. 

One of the points I like about the Fernco vs the tape method is there is no air escaping and the Fernco can be used many times with just a couple of turns with a screw driver.
Tinker

 

[James Watriss]

My elegant solution for the dust deputy...

I bought another festool hose, and swapped connectors on both. The rubber nozzle that connects to the tools fits nicely into the inlet on the cyclone. So now I have 2 hoses, one with 2.5" connectors on each end, (I bought the oneida 2.5" adaptor for the top of the cyclone) and one with the festool rubber nozzles on each end, to fit into the inlet.

My only real complaint is that the nozzles clog up pretty easily during general floor cleanup. Luckily for me, I also have a "real" cyclone system, with a floor sweep.

1st post... hello to all.

 

[Don Bullock]

Until my PC died I had a picture of a DD that was attached to the top of a Festool CT 22. I wish that I knew which forum I saw it on so that I could post it here.

 

[Mike_Chrest]

Here's a picture of my old clearview set up (with plastic bucket)

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[Mike_Chrest]

Here's the new & improved model. Fiber drum with fiberglass cloth reinforcement( to prevent drum collapse).[attachimg=#]

 

[Ned]

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Mike,

Was that something that happened, or are you simply over-engineering the way I would? 

Ned

 

[Dave Ronyak]

My elegant solution for the dust deputy...

I bought another festool hose, and swapped connectors on both. The rubber nozzle that connects to the tools fits nicely into the inlet on the cyclone. So now I have 2 hoses, one with 2.5" connectors on each end, (I bought the oneida 2.5" adaptor for the top of the cyclone) and one with the festool rubber nozzles on each end, to fit into the inlet.

My only real complaint is that the nozzles clog up pretty easily during general floor cleanup. Luckily for me, I also have a "real" cyclone system, with a floor sweep.

1st post... hello to all.

Welcome!  I have a CT-22 with Boom Arm and a Dust Deputy.  If you use a 36mm hose without a vacuum end fitting, it will fit directly onto the 1 1/2" inlet of the Dust Deputy, albeit a bit loosely.  An ordinary radiator hose clamp can be used to secure it to the Dust Deputy.  Or you can leave the vacuum end fitting in place, and use a rubber plumbing coupler/reducer with hose clamps.  This is my current setup from the Boom Arm to the Dust Deputy.  To connect the Dust Deputy to the CT 22, I use the 50 mm AS hose supplied with the Boom Arm and an anti-static elastomeric fitting also purchased from Oneida.  My next experiment may be to make up a pair of short leader hoses to extend from the tool end of the Boom Arm, so I can use a 36 mm leader hose for routing and sawing and a 27 mm leader hose for those Festools that require the smaller hose with its elastomeric end fitting, e.g. Deltex 93 and other sanders and 1010 router.  Also, the tool end fitting of the 27 mm hose fits snugly into the tool end fitting of the 36 mm hose.  Thus, instead of making up 2 leader hoses of 3-4 ft length as described above, it is possible to mount the 36mm hose normally on the Boom Arm and then make up a very short length of 27 mm hose with both of its ends equipped with tool end fittings.

Experimenting with these various setups brings up a gripe I have: Why doesn't Festool design their fittings so their hoses can be coupled more simply and in more different ways to one another?  Relatively simple dimensional changes of the end fittings would allow the vacuum end fitting of one hose to be coupled directly to the tool end of another hose.  Instead, as currently configured, to couple Festool hoses together, the end fitting of one of the hoses has to be changed from a tool end fitting to a vacuum end fitting and a coupling sleeve used to receive both of the vacuum end fittings of the hoses to be joined.  Not a very efficient system and one that requires a customer to buy a lot of extra components and do a lot of fiddling around.

Dave R.

 

[Mike_Chrest]

Ned,
  No, the drum got a little dented in shipment and I didn't want to ship it back so I put the glass around it. It was starting to collapse. Don't know how an undented fiber drum would hold up. The bucket used to collapse when the hose got plugged. Upgraded drum is still going 6 months with out collapse.
Mike

PS: I got the idea from Mark Carlson in an older thread. Anyone else with a fiber drum, how are they holding up?

 

[James Watriss]

I can't really speak to what a dented drum would be like. But my Oneida 5hp cyclone uses a 55 gallon fiber drum, and that holds up just fine. The impeller is powerful enough that it will lift the empty drum of of the floor when it's running... and I have had no issues with the drum imploding.