CT22E weight reduction.

[DavidNH]

Physical and mental weight reduction.
I mentioned in another post, that I didn't care too much for the vinyl cord or the auto-on receptacle.
The cord is stiff when cold, heavy and really has no easy place to store it on the CT22.
I'm always rolling it up and trying to stuff it somewhere it doesn't want to be.
All my power cords are heavy duty silicone skinned 12 AWG. same gauge like the one I just cut off.
High quality cords roll up at any temperature and never fight you when you lay them flat on the ground.  
Lester is sending me a new receptacle that I no longer need. Thank you Festor!
If any of you guys need it, I'll ship it to you.
Thank you
david@davidryng.com

 

[AlexThePalex]

The cord is stiff when cold, heavy and really has no easy place to store it on the CT22.

??? Ok, I don't get this. No easy place to store the cord? What do you think those two T-shaped bits of plastic on the back are for? Or is there a reason the American cord doesn't fit there as good as the European cord?

 

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The cord is stiff when cold, heavy and really has no easy place to store it on the CT22.
I'm always rolling it up and trying to stuff it somewhere it doesn't want to be.

I bought the Festool handle for my CT22 and then as an afterthought, added a pair of these cord storage hooks to the handle.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=65679&cat=1,43456,43460

 

[leakyroof]

I suspect that the USA voltage rating vacuum of 120 volt gets a thicker power cord to handle the extra amp rating since we don't use many[if any] 220 volt Extractors. Measure the diameter of your power cord Alex, and tell us what it is. I'm thinking you get the slimmer cord for Europe since 220 voltage system allows smaller gauge wiring for systems.
I agree that the stock cord-minder 'ears' at the rear of the vac don't really do the best job with the thick power cord that the CTs came with here in the US. With only a few turns of cord stored on them, it's not so bad. Once you wind the whole cord up for transport, it's a different story. [unsure]

 

[Julian Tracy]

The CT's cord here in the US has a stupid 20amp>15amp adapter plug pigtail on it and also is just too dang long to wrap around the cord wrap protrusions.

It's a bit better if you lop about 2' off of it and install a standard plug on the end - then it wraps a bit better, still a poor design on the cord wrap though.

Julian

 

[mouppe]

Yes, Alex, believe it or not the US cord is quite inflexible and is always falling off the two plastic holders. It is as if they are not large enough for the US cable. I have seen the UK CTs and this is not an issue for them.  If there was one thing on my CT wish list it would be to make the cable retractable.

Richard.

 

[Alan m]

Physical and mental weight reduction.
I mentioned in another post, that I didn't care too much for the vinyl cord or the auto-on receptacle.
The cord is stiff when cold, heavy and really has no easy place to store it on the CT22.
I'm always rolling it up and trying to stuff it somewhere it doesn't want to be.
All my power cords are heavy duty silicone skinned 12 AWG.   
Lester is sending me a new receptacle that I no longer need. Thank you Festor!
If any of you guys need it, I'll ship it to you.
Thank you
david@davidryng.com

im sorry but i dont follow what you did . could you elaborate on the wiring.

the cable on my ct22 is pritty thick, from memory(seen only a few minutes ago) it is bettween 3/8s and 1/2 inch thick

 

[DavidNH]

The cord is stiff when cold, heavy and really has no easy place to store it on the CT22.

??? Ok, I don't get this. No easy place to store the cord? What do you think those two T-shaped bits of plastic on the back are for? Or is there a reason the American cord doesn't fit there as good as the European cord?

When the cord is cold, you'll not be wrapping it around those two wing things!

 

[DavidNH]

Physical and mental weight reduction.
I mentioned in another post, that I didn't care too much for the vinyl cord or the auto-on receptacle.
The cord is stiff when cold, heavy and really has no easy place to store it on the CT22.
I'm always rolling it up and trying to stuff it somewhere it doesn't want to be.
All my power cords are heavy duty silicone skinned 12 AWG.  
Lester is sending me a new receptacle that I no longer need. Thank you Festor!
If any of you guys need it, I'll ship it to you.
Thank you
david@davidryng.com

im sorry but i dont follow what you did . could you elaborate on the wiring.

the cable on my ct22 is pritty thick, from memory(seen only a few minutes ago) it is bettween 3/8s and 1/2 inch thick

My cord is around 1/2" Dia. I cut the cord, leaving 8-10" from the vac and attached an after market plug end. I also removed the auto-on receptacle and wired a short cord, with a receptacle end.

 

[AlexThePalex]

When the cord is cold, you'll not be wrapping it around those two wing things!

Well, that must be a heck of a cord then.

Measure the diameter of your power cord Alex, and tell us what it is. I'm thinking you get the slimmer cord for Europe since 220 voltage system allows smaller gauge wiring for systems.

My cord is 8 mm (1/3th inch).

I'm amazed and sorry to hear you Americans have so much problems with your electrical system one way or the other. I read a lot of complaints here on the forum, cords not fitting, sockets getting sloppy, having the wrong plug or wrong gauge cord, or questions where people are not sure about one thing or the other. We never have these problems over here in Europe.  

But it's pretty sloppy of Festool if they do fit your tools with bigger cords but not work on the storage solution.

 

[peter halle]

For the metric members out there, the cord that us in NA are referring to is between 10 and 11 mm in diameter.  Mine measured .40625 inches in diameter (13/32")

Just FYI.

Peter

 

[jmbfestool]

Just supporting what Alex said we don't seems to have that problem.

My CT22 cord raps around the T bit on the back Easily yes the cord gauge is thicker than standard festool tools and others but it's still very flexible even in cold weather never had a problem!  

I do have a problem with the new CT26 though you know when you fully rapped up the lead on the CT22 you then push it into left or right side notch to hold it tight  well on the CT26 it does not it's a very loose fit and the plug often falls out and it comes loose crap really CT22 is much better.

Jmb

 

[Julian Tracy]

Hey Peter,

Let the metric folks figure it out themselves.  Nobody goes out of their way to help up imperial guys out around here, least of all Festool themselves.

A note on the CT22 sockets.  I've had one go bad - if you open them up, they're a  very light-duty design.  Not very durable at all.  Mine is as loose as can be, but to their credit, Festool did send me another.

Not sure how many times they'll do that though, or whether they just had a crappy batch.

JT

 

[peter halle]

Julian,

I try to help people on both sides of the pond if I can - no matter what their measurement units are.

Regarding the receptacle here in North America, I too have had a replacement sent.  But don't do what I did.  You remove the receptacle for replacement or for adjustment from the front of the machine - not by taking the entire machine apart.  [scared]  It takes just a couple of miniutes.  It is also possible to adjust the tension the receptacle places on the plug.

Peter

 

[DavidNH]

Julian,

I try to help people on both sides of the pond if I can - no matter what their measurement units are.

Regarding the receptacle here in North America, I too have had a replacement sent.  But don't do what I did.  You remove the receptacle for replacement or for adjustment from the front of the machine - not by taking the entire machine apart.  [scared]  It takes just a couple of miniutes.  It is also possible to adjust the tension the receptacle places on the plug.

Peter

I've noticed the same solution was an option when I opened mine as well. I chose to stick to my idea though.
DNH

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Are some of you guys charter member's in the piss and moan club?

My cord wraps up just fine whether it is 80 or 8 out on those things on the back.

a piece of electrical tape will stop the pigtail from coming off.

3 years of heavy use and my vac plug is just fine.

I happen to love the long cord on the CT.  Nothing worse then a tool with a short cord on it.

they are tools not surgical instruments.

 

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I happen to love the long cord on the CT.  Nothing worse then a tool with a short cord on it.

Have to agree. The woman who comes to clean my apartment found that if she plugs the CT22 cord into the right outlet, she can vacuum my entire apartment without having to change plug locations. I've been ordered to dispose of the other two canister vacuums I have. Hey, who am I to complain?

 

[AlexThePalex]

Hey Peter,

Let the metric folks figure it out themselves.  Nobody goes out of their way to help up imperial guys out around here,

That's the spirit!  [huh]

 

[DavidNH]

Are some of you guys charter member's in the piss and moan club?

My cord wraps up just fine whether it is 80 or 8 out on those things on the back.

a piece of electrical tape will stop the pigtail from coming off.

3 years of heavy use and my vac plug is just fine.

I happen to love the long cord on the CT.  Nothing worse then a tool with a short cord on it.

they are tools not surgical instruments.

My CT is five years old.
I also have a FEIN vac that works really well with the Festools and better with the Bosch table saw and a 2 1/2" hose. Canister bags are cheap and hold tons of dust.
The cord is much the same as the CT but it winds around the motor perfectly and is clamped in place with the clasp that holds the motor to the canister.
May I add, the plug socket still works after 10 years.
Nothing to complain about with that vac!
Bottom line here, as far as I'm concerned, it's not a time saving tool if you have to wrestle with setup and break down or lose of power!
I bought the CT with my table track saw setup, two additional 800 tables and the 109" track. Lot's O cash on a vac when my FEIN was just fine.
Just thought I had to have it at the time.
I now know I'm going to love CT after my handy work. [big grin]

 

[Julian Tracy]

Yes, you know what?  You spend $500+ on a vacuum and you get automatic membership in the piss and moan club cause a $500 vac should have no poorly thought out details.

And the cord on the CT22 IS a pain to wrap no matter how much you happen to love it.  And the pigtail IS a ridiculous add-on that 99% of us in the US don't have a need for.

Long cords are great, sure, but if you can't make the cord wrap fit the cord than a few feet less would have made no difference in the use of the vac.

I loved the cord wrap ability on my Fein Turbo II.  Secure, fast and simple.

JT