Ctl Midi dust ext/ts55 saw.. 240v vs 110v?

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Hi all,

I'm thinking of buying this combo. I have a question and was wondering if anyone can help with an answer?

I work on sites in the UK. Mostly they are only 110v, (occasionally 240v i.e private refurbs).
I was looking at buying the 110v saw and then started looking at the dust extraction to go with it. But I can't seem to find if the dust extraction is 110v that you can plug the 110v ts55 or other 110v tools into it.

I'm torn in decision. The 240v seems more powerful and has auto brake, the 110v does not.
Also not much point getting the 110v if you cant use a dust extraction? (though not a problem on sites that don't care for dust)

Does anyone care to discuss and help me understand which would become more beneficial in use?

Thanks FOG,

Tom

 

[wrightwoodwork]

It is a pain at times the 110 rules on site. It states in hs rules that all tools should be 110 but if the job can only be carried out safely with 240 tools you are allowed to use as long as using a rcd and it has being tested daily and all the 240 tools has being tested, but because the companies put it in there safety policy all tools have to be 110 it becomes irrelevant. If it was me I would get the 110 saw and hoover then you can plug the saw in to the hoover and it will operate the auto start. If you got a 110 saw and 240 hoover you will have to manually switch the hoover on unless you bought an other 240 saw which is unnecessary you shouldn't have any problems with the 110.as long as you have a decent transformer say a 3.3 kva then you want took at what the continous rating is most will be 1650 but some do run 1800 continous which is what I use  then the 3.3 peak is what you can operate vat for 10 or 15 mins on and off

 

[joiner1970]

Tom all my festool kit is 110v and I've had it years with no problems.

Stop worrying and just buy it

 

[AlexThePalex]

I was looking at buying the 110v saw and then started looking at the dust extraction to go with it. But I can't seem to find if the dust extraction is 110v that you can plug the 110v ts55 or other 110v tools into it.

I'm torn in decision. The 240v seems more powerful and has auto brake, the 110v does not.
Also not much point getting the 110v if you cant use a dust extraction? (though not a problem on sites that don't care for dust)

Hi Tom, welcome tot the FOG.

Festool in the UK sells both a 110v and a 240v Midi vac so you can pick the one you need for your system.

 

[jonny round boy]

It is a pain at times the 110 rules on site. It states in hs rules that all tools should be 110...

Do you have a source for this? I've heard this said many times, but despite asking and searching, I can't find a rule to this effect. I think it's a 'rule' that doesn't exist, but it's been repeated and passed on so many times that everyone believes it.

I should state though that I don't do site work - I just couldn't put up with the H&S bull****.

Getting back on topic though, as Joiner1970 says, it'll work fine. Don't worry about it.

 

[Distinctive Interiors]

I fit/work on a few different sites for various builders. I do have a couple of 110v tools, but very, very rarely use them except in my workshop at home via a transformer.

I have only once had a situation where the site foreman told me that I was not able to use my 240v tools on his site, and that was 20 years ago. I always plug my extention lead into an RCD device if there isn't one already fitted to the clients electrical system, which is rare nowadays anyway.

Maybe, because I'm fitting the Kitchens, I am practically the last trade in the property,  and they don't feel that me using 240v tools is any kind of threat to anyone else.

 

[wrightwoodwork]

Can't find the bit to hand but have read it in the past on hse own forum on all sites it says you have to wear hard hats at all times but hse rules say hard hats have to be worn bit of the only danger is from a fall then they shouldn't be worn unless it is on the safety policy. So as soon as company puts any rule in you have to follow jobs like cutting glulam beams say 150mm thick you will need 240 as 110 tools don't have the power but that is a different extreme to kitchens

 

[Davej]

The ts55 works fine with the midi when both are 110v . Just ignore the sticker that says max output 500w on the midi , the electronic brake is a bit superfluous as the blade is retracted when you finish your cut
Dave

 

[Floorman70]

My mate has the 110 midi/ts55 ,he did mention to me it didn`t seem to have as much power,i suggested not having the suction on full,so he turned it down a touch and said it was better,although it may have just  been his imagination

 

[Davej]

My mate has the 110 midi/ts55 ,he did mention to me it didn`t seem to have as much power,i suggested not having the suction on full,so he turned it down a touch and said it was better,although it may have just  been his imagination

The 110v version is 1050w not 1200w like the 240v one.

 

[sancho57]

i use all my  festools here with a 3.3 tranny, no problem.

 

[joiner1970]

Can't find the bit to hand but have read it in the past on hse own forum on all sites it says you have to wear hard hats at all times but hse rules say hard hats have to be worn bit of the only danger is from a fall then they shouldn't be worn unless it is on the safety policy. So as soon as company puts any rule in you have to follow jobs like cutting glulam beams say 150mm thick you will need 240 as 110 tools don't have the power but that is a different extreme to kitchens

Well I've never had a problem using my 110v tools and yes I have cut huge gluelam beams in the past. Lots of people mention 110v being a lot less powerful but that's not my experience in 25 plus years of working on sites.

 

[wrightwoodwork]

The only time I find a problem with 110 tools if there is too much load on the transformer like lights running constantly. I've cut glulam beams as well with 110 tools but have to flip it over which is fine. If you have to tools that are 1200 watts but 1 is 110 and the other is 240 they both will have the same power , the only difference been that the 110 will require more amps to run. If you get an electric shock it will hurt obviously of not under load but if if is under load and has more amps running through it then that is what damages you not the voltage. The hs rules where written long before things like rcd's existed it would be interesting to know in countries that use 240 on sites how many fatalities are caused by use of 240 compared to 110

 

[fin]

ive just recently bought a 110v ctl midi and ts55 they work fine together as youd expect.

all my tools are 110v. i work for a small building company doing extensions and loft conversions among other jobs. not really necessary to have 110v but i guess i dont know where ill be in a few years time so best to go for 110v and just lug a transformer about.

 

[Deansocial]

Having used quite a few of the festools in both voltages I would say the 240v is more powerful. They don't bog down as easy. That said all mine are 110v and I get along fine

 

[neth27]

ive just recently bought a 110v ctl midi and ts55 they work fine together as youd expect.

all my tools are 110v. i work for a small building company doing extensions and loft conversions among other jobs. not really necessary to have 110v but i guess i dont know where ill be in a few years time so best to go for 110v and just lug a transformer about.

... someone else from the North-East   [big grin] [big grin]

john