D36 Antistatic Hose - Use on Boom Arm?

[Dan Clark]

I have two CT hoses - an antistatic D27 that came with the CT22 and a non-antistatic D36 that came with my UNIVERSAL CLEANING SET.  Both hoses are 3.5M (11.5 ft) long.

Here's the problem...  The D27 hose is hooked to my Boom Arm.  However, when using it for general cleanup, I find that 1) it get's clogged sometimes and 2) it's really too short for cleanup. 

My D36 hose setup has issues too...  The non-antistatic hose isn't great for constant dust collection because of static (fuzzy hose and sparking).  And, storing it in the hose garage isn't as convenient as storing it in its systainer for cleanup work. 

My goal is to reduce hassle and increase productivity.  I'm looking for options.

Would an Antistatic, 5 M (16.5 ft) D36 Hose permanently installed on my Boom Arm be a good option?  Does anyone have this configuration?  How well does this work?

Thanks,

Dan.

 

[Brice Burrell]

  I see a couple of potential problems. First, the D36 "as is" doesn't fit some of the tools, like sanders, Domino and so on. Second, 5m the hose would have to coiled up some to use it with the MFT, it would be too long. I have the D36, 3.5m hose, I keep it in the hose garage on my CT22 (with the boomarm). I pull it out and Velcro strap it to the boom when I need it. I don't see this wouldn't work with the 5m hose.

 

[Ned]

Dan, would this help any?
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Y-Piece with Blanking Plug, CT

Ned

 

[Corwin]

Dan, I have the D36-AS 'semi-permanently' mounted on my Boom Arm.  When I want to use the D27-AS I simply hang it from the cord holders on the other side with loops of string.  Just unplug the  D50 from one hose and plug into the other -- simple.  I also store the D27 in the Hose Garage when not in use.  Works great! 

Now to add the Clear-View...  maybe next year.

Corwin

 

[Corwin]

Dan, Here's one just for you, as I know how you prefer photos:

Corwin

 

[woodshopdemos]

Corwin,
  How pathetic. A clean shop that is well organized...yuck. I mean it always helps to show a photo but my gawd, make it real.

Have you ever noticed how much I retouch pictures. It is faster than cleaning the shop.

And Corwin, a serious reply: that is a beautiful shop photo and Festool setup. I am jealous.

 

[Corwin]

...And Corwin, a serious reply: that is a beautiful shop photo and Festool setup. I am jealous.

Thanks, but the picture certainly pails in comparison to your, err, uh, beautiful shop photos!

Corwin

 

[Mike_Chrest]

Dan,
  You can try wrapping some copper wire around the outside of the non-antistatic hose. Seems to help on my setup. I like the twin hose setups in the planer thread. Will try that next.

 

[mysterium]

Dan,  I use the "Y" like Ned suggested. 

The "Y" also helps avoid the D50 "kink" at the vacuum plus gives me a few more inches of reach with the D27 hose. 

If I'm cleaning I let the D36 antistatic hose run along the floor....  If I have an application where the D36 is needed for over head work or over shoulder I attach the D36 to the boom arm next to the D27 temporarily.

jim

 

[Dan Clark]

First, I'm sorry for the delay in responding. 

Ned, Jim, Mike, and Corwin, I have had the Y for awhile, but haven't used it yet.  (Actually, I misunderstood it's purpose and bought it by mistake.)  The issue I have with the "Y" is that connecting two hoses it should reduce the the airflow through each of the hoses.  Am I missing something?

Attaching a D36 to a the Boom Arm sees like a good idea to me.  Also, I'll try running a wire around the non-Antistatic hose for static reduction.

Brice, using Velcro around the Boom Arm looks like a great idea.  Some of those Borg tie-it straps might be perfect. 

After writing to Bob, it turns out that there are no adapters that can connect two hoses together or a step-down adapter that allows you to use a D36 hose on a D27 tool (like the saws, sanders, etc.) 

I have to think this through a bit more, but I think I'll stick with my non-Antistatic D36 hose for the short term.  The cyclone needs to be hooked up first.

Regards,

Dan.

 

[DaveM]

After writing to Bob, it turns out that there are no adapters that can connect two hoses together or a step-down adapter that allows you to use a D36 hose on a D27 tool (like the saws, sanders, etc.) 

I've also been wondering if it's possible to connect the D36 and D27 hoses together; sounds like Festool doesn't make an adapter, although I have seen they make a D50 to D36 adapter. 

I'm curious if anyone has found a way to connect the D36 and D27 hoses together?  The picture posted above by Corwin appears to show a D36 and D27 connected together, or am I not seeing it correctly?

DaveM

 

[Brice Burrell]

Dave look closely at the photo the hoses are not connected.

 

[Corwin]

Yes, the  photo shows only one hose attached -- see post above pic.

When I ordered my Boom Arm I also ordered the Y-Piece with Blanking Plug, Connector Sleeve and Rotating Adapter .  For me, the Y-Piece didn't add any benefit.  The connector and adapter will enable you to connect the D27 to the D36, BUT you will have to undo the adapter from the D36 to convert back to normal (stock) use.  Here is where Festool truly needs an additional offering, or two...  Until then, these fittings will spend most of their time in the Systainer that came with the Cleaning Set for Workshop.

Would you like pictures of the connector and adapter installed?  I could set that up in short order...

Corwin

 

[mysterium]

Hi Dan,

I leave my "Y" adapter permanently on my shop CT 22 with boom arm to avoid D50 "kink" and to gain a few more inches.  In never use both sides of "Y" concurrently, only binaurally.  Thus if I use the "Y" adapter with the D36, I plug the D27 hose.

Yes you can adapt from the D36 to the D27 using the "Hose Reducer" (#452 897)  with the small end in the D36, large end in the D27.  Best fit on the small end is with non rotating connector on the D36 but the rotating type will work also.  In the catalog the description of the "Hose reducer" states to reduce a D50 to D36 but it works to reduce a D36 to D27 also.

And you can connect a D36 direct to another D36 but the best fit is with the non rotating D36 ends. 

Thus I can plug one D36 directly into the CT 22 , 2nd D36 end to end with the 1st D36 & if I need more length by using the Hose Reducer to connect a D27 I can cover 33' plus feet.

Hope this helps,
jim

 

[DaveM]

Corwin and Jim Dailey, thanks for your replies on connecting the D36 and D27 hoses.  Based on your posts, it sounds like there are two different approaches for connecting the D27 and D36 hoses together. 

Corwin, yes, that would be great to see pics of the connector and adapter for joining the D27 and D36 hoses!

Jim, would it be possible to see a pic of the  "Hose Reducer" (#452 897) connecting the D27 to D36?

Dan--Sorry for hijacking your thread somewhat off the original topic!

DaveM

 

[Dan Clark]

DaveM,

No apology necessary.  I'm interested in seeing the pics too.

Dan.

 

[mysterium]

Hi Dave & Dan,

I be glad to show you pictures of the various connections/combinations however I won't be able to until  Sunday night at the earliest.....  I'm away from the shop for a few days.

jim

 

[Dan Clark]

Jim,

That's OK.  When you get a chance.

Thanks,

Dan.

 

[DaveM]

Jim,

Hey, no problemo, thanks for offering!

Dave

 

[Corwin]

Okay, I'll go take some photos.  It's late so I'll be back after a flash...