domino for craftsman style cabinet doors/drawers???

[erock]

Hello guys,  I am hoping to get my hands on a recon. domino.  So I was wondering if anyone has used the domino to build  kitchen cabinet doors?  I'm not 100% sure what path I'm going to take with the style of cabinets doors/drawers, or even the method that I will build them. 

I was thinking of using the domino (if i get it), kreg jig (fastest), or buying some new router bits. 

If I was to use the domino, any accessories that I should get?  Using the domino would be a learning process for me.  the local festool dealers around me seem to never have one available for me to even touch, let alone answer any questions about it. 

Thanks guys!
Eric

 

[WoodChuckWoods]

I have built a few cabinets with the domino and I find it to be much faster,stronger, and easier than pocket holes. If you can just get the whole set and a sys full of dominos otherwise you'll find yourself going right back for them.hope this helped

 

[VictorL]

Yes, you can use dominoes for building cabinet and interior doors. Process is slightly different than traditional process, but much easier and faster. Joint is really strong, so no poket screws are needed

Regards,
VictorL

 

[erock]

I forgot to ask what size domino would I use for 3/4" stock?  I will make all my face frames out of 3/4" walnut (as of today, wife may change her mind AGAIN). I was thinking about getting the domino sys. with all the different domino's, but since I will mainly use 3/4" lumber, I would just want to stock up on one size domino.  

thanks
eric

 

[kfitzsimons]

Domino would work fine. Definitely don't use the Kreg. You'd regret it every time you open the doors and see the pocket holes - even if you fill them with the plugs. Domino is much cleaner and will be stronger.

 

[John Stevens]

I forgot to ask what size domino would I use for 3/4" stock?

Per Rick Christopherson's manual, 1/3 the thickness of the stock if using hard material (e.g., hardwood), somewhat less than 1/3 the thickness of stock for softer material (e.g., plywood).  If you're using 3/4" hardwood, use no thicker than 6mm.

Regards,

John

 

[mouppe]

I would strongly recommend buying the domino systainer set. This has bags of all the different domino sizes and all the various cutter sizes.

It is well-priced, and you can always buy more dominoes of a particular size when you need them. This way you could use 1/2" material for the cabinet sides with a 5mm domino and 3/4" material for the face frames with a 6mm domino. The set gives you more flexibility and as most domino users can attest, once you start using the Domino, you will find it indispensable in so many situations.

Richard.

 

[Brice Burrell]

I forgot to ask what size domino would I use for 3/4" stock?

Per Rick Christopherson's manual, 1/3 the thickness of the stock if using hard material (e.g., hardwood), somewhat less than 1/3 the thickness of stock for softer material (e.g., plywood).  If you're using 3/4" hardwood, use no thicker than 6mm.

Regards,

John

This is a good rule of thumb and for solid wood the 6 mm is a good choice.  However, I always use 5 mm tenons for the cabinets boxes made of 19 mm ply.  The 5 mm tenons are only 30 mm long so you can use them on a right angle joint where the 6 mm tenons are 40 mm and will go through the side of 19 mm ply.

 

[erock]

This is why I love this forum!  Everyone willing to help everyone else!  I'm sure I'm  not the only person to ask domino sizing questions and I won't be the last, and with all the available old post, no body gets upset about repeating somethings.  Thanks guys!  Now I just have to site here and in anticipation of getting a domino. 
I thought about getting 1/2" sheet goods for cabinet drawers and base cabinet backs.  But, I found a great deal on 3/4" prefinished birch for all my uppers and base cabinets, as well as my shelves and drawer construction.  I got 24 sheet for a seal!!  Plus, I have 20 sheets of unfinished maple....not sure what I will do with that [big grin].  Just wish the wife didn't need to park in the garage!!!

Thanks again fellas
Eric

 

[WoodChuckWoods]

Just wish the wife didn't need to park in the garage!!!

Thanks again fellas
Eric

That's crazy talk garages aren't made to park in!!!

 

[GPowers]

Eric

Festool offers a two day class on building cabinet carcass and face frames all with dominos. Great class I took it last Nov in Las Vegas.

 

[RonMiller]

I make a fair amount of craftsman/shaker/modern doors and use the domino extensively for this. Almost no matter what type and method you use tho, unless you make extended tenons, your doors will be weak. So putting dominoes in the corner fixes all that quickly and strongly.

 

[fshanno]

This is deja vu all over again for me.  I justified my Domino on my own kitchen.  It worked great.  I used the Domino for my doors and drawer fronts, for my face frames and to assemble the cabinets.  Perhaps it wasn't the drop dead fastest way to do things in every case but it sure was fun.  I didn't use a cope and stick bit set.  I just cut grooves for the panels using a straight bit on the router table and ended the grove in the mortise.  This is your chance, go for it.  I've never regretted it and I'm sure you won't.

Let me say a word about pocket screws.  I'm a big believer in pocket screws and I even sprang for the Kreg Foreman.  But the Domino is still better in many cases.  You have to pick and choose and do the right thing at the right time but the Domino fits very well with many work processes. 

Intuitively we are inclined to think that the Domino must be great just from the look and feel of it.  In my experience reality has more than validated that initial impression.  Now I'm using it to build other people's kitchens and I'm glad I have it. 

A hidden benefit that makes the Domino cooler than the SawStop is that it doesn't cost $100 to demo it for friends and family.

I use the trim stop and the outriggers routinely. 

 

[Deke]

For what it is worth, the first thing I ever did with a Domino, and I borrowed it to do so, was to make some shaker style doors for a built in cabinet. I was done joining the stiles and rails in minutes. The doors have been doing quite well for about three years now. Now I have my own Domino now and am ready to make some more, this time for a small bedside table for my wife (all hardwood). I am also using the domino for a lot other joinery including the drawer box (meaning the pieces the drawer will slide on). It is really making life simple. It feels like cheating. However, it gets me much quicker to the parts I really enjoy - dry fitting, assembly... I don't mind more traditional joinery methods when it is needed (like a through tenon), but for so many tasks, I found joinery a chore. I am certain I will try to apply my Domino to any joining task that comes up, and with all the good advice here, I am sure I will be able to do so.

 

[Grasshopper]

I'm bumping this old thread as I was hoping someone out there on the FOG either had a video or build pics of a shaker or craftsman style door joined with dominos vs. tongue and groove or cope and stick methods.

I'm testing up for making some doors near term and I'd love to see some domino doors.

 

[capww8]

I'm bumping this old thread as I was hoping someone out there on the FOG either had a video or build pics of a shaker or craftsman style door joined with dominos vs. tongue and groove or cope and stick methods.

I'm testing up for making some doors near term and I'd love to see some domino doors.

I'm in precisely the same boat.

If you're joining with domino's, do you cut a dado, T&G, cope, anything on the rails and stiles?

 

[Grasshopper]

Capww8,

I was actually looking for someone who has built shaker style cabinets (flat panel), without T&G, or cope and stick with the domino.

If you want to see domino placement using tongue and groove, check out Erock's video (actually the OP of this older thread):

I'm bumping this old thread as I was hoping someone out there on the FOG either had a video or build pics of a shaker or craftsman style door joined with dominos vs. tongue and groove or cope and stick methods.

I'm testing up for making some doors near term and I'd love to see some domino doors.

I'm in precisely the same boat.

If you're joining with domino's, do you cut a dado, T&G, cope, anything on the rails and stiles?

 

[Grasshopper]

….now if anyone has a video, or build pics showing shaker style cabinet doors being joined using dominos (without T&G or cope and stick), I'd love to see it.

 

[Jimmy FineCut]

I make lots of cabinetsdoors and recently brought a domino. It's been a complete game changer so far.

Here is a little test I did the other day. I didn't take a photo of the stiles, but you get the idea. I used 5x30 dominos.

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[capww8]

Most helpful. Thank you.

I started building garage cabinets today to refine skills before the living space built-ins.