Domino to drill dowels?

[Brice Burrell]

I want a switch to be able to disengage the oscillation so you can just drill.
Tha would be handy.

This is a great idea for drilling dowels, could this be done? BTW, notice this Eiji Fuller's idea not mine.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Highly to hugely unlikely.

 

[Bill Wyko]

That's what I use that thing called a drill for ;D i would like that as a feature though.

 

[Mirko]

It will never happen. 

Of course my above statment was said to ony throw down a chalange! 

Mirko

 

[Mirko]

How about holding the Domino in such a way that you could counter oscillate the machine, that would cancel out the wobble, no.

Mirko :

 

[Michael Kellough]

How about holding the Domino in such a way that you could counter oscillate the machine, that would cancel out the wobble, no.

Mirko :

Not even Alvin Lee could "hold it" that fast.  ;D

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Eiji is thinking exactly what I told Festool USA representatives shortly after I got my Domino machine to which they replied it will not happen.  I could almost say "I love my Domino"; in my opinion it is that good.  But one capability it lacks is the ability to simply drill upon plunging without the sideways oscillation.  Why not a simple disengage / lockout oscillation switch, lever or button?  Then the Domino machine could also be used to quickly and accurately bore holes perpendicular to any work surface, or at whatever angle the user chooses.  The Domino would then become essentially a miniaturized, portable, precise drill press while retaining all of its present, unique capabilities.  To my knowledgfe, no one else in the world makes that type of machine, either.  Many times I have needed to precisely bore through something that cannot be brought it or loaded onto a drill press table, and the best I could do was to make a hardwood drill bit guide block (bushing) on my drill press for use with a handheld drill at the primary workpiece.  If the Domino had the ability to simply bore a cylindrical hole, it could also be used with dowels.  A single dowel can be used as a rotary joint, a domino joint cannot.  It could then also be used with the LR 32 hole drilling rail in place of a router, and if you wanted the holes to be spaced apart the distance corresponding to that between one of the dowel pins and the centerline of the Domino, you could drill a line of shelf pin supports using any straight edge as a guide.

Festool, you can probably obtain a new patent by adding this feature and thus extend your world-wide monopoly on the Domino machine.

Dave R.

 

[Notorious T.O.D.]

Could this need not be met by a Port-a-line type drill guide attachment which allowed the use of the quick change chuck capabilities the Festool drills already have today?  Seems to me that the good engineers at Festool could come up with such an accessory for a couple hundred dollars that would act as a fence and angle guide and work with their drill systems...Fast-Fix and Concentrix or whatever.  As long as the need is just to drill one hole at a time.

It would seem to me that changing the Domino to do both functions would not be practical...

Best,
Todd

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Todd,
That would be a nice product, too.  My guess is that Festool recognizes that their array of quick-change specialty chucks are a key reason people buy their drills.  They probably don't want to dilute their market by offering the chucks to go with anyone else's tool offerings, save possibly ProTool which is interrelated, but NAINA.

Dave R.

 

[Frank-Jan]

To my knowledgfe, no one else in the world makes that type of machine, either. .... you could drill a line of shelf pin supports using any straight edge as a guide.

I think you can use the Mafell duo doweler with just one bit. Also, the fence has a "toothed" edge and they have a special rail with similar "teeth" for easily drilling shelf holes. I'm not sure, but I think the Hoffmannis the exact same machine.

 

[woodshopdemos]

You guys are thinking to pointedly. Festool can offer Domino Loose Tenons with a hole drilled in the center. The cost oer would be high but that is the pricee of progress.

 

[Dave Ronyak]

True, John, but that is not what I would like.  I want to be able to use the precision plunge mechanism of the Domino to drill round holes anywhere I can place the Domino machine.

Dave R.

 

[Dan Clermont]

Something tells me it can't be done with the Domino

What's  inside the Domino

Dan Clermont

 

[Dave Ronyak]

You're right, Dan.  The gear train design prevents it.  In the video it appears to me that as designed, the motor drives the oscillation mechanism which in turn feeds power through to drive the cutter/bit.  To make it work as I desire would require the ability to drive the cutter/bit without driving the oscillation mechanism, or to continue to drive the oscillation mechanism but adjust its tracking control so that it effectively does not oscillate the head.  I'd have to study it more before I'd conclude that the oscillatory motion could  or could not be modified to be user adjustable to be effectively zero. 

Dave R.

 

[southern_guy]

Festool already make a version of the domino without the oscillation. There are a number of different models. Look in the catalogue under Plunge Routers ;D ;D

 

[Notorious T.O.D.]

Perhaps we end up back at requesting a plunge base for the 700 router then.... especially if it uses the same motor as the Domino...

Best,
Todd

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Perhaps we end up back at requesting a plunge base for the 700 router then.... especially if it uses the same motor as the Domino...

Best,
Todd

It does use the same motor.  That was openly stated to the group of FOG members who went to NV this past April when they introduced the MFK 700 to us.  I own an OF 1400 with four different sized collect and many Festool accessores.  Although I have successfully used my OF 1400 with my LR 32 and even for routing hinge mortices and inlay patches on installed old door frames, I'd like a smaller router for many tasks including plunge hole drilling, rounding over edges, small rabbets and trimming applied edging (although I don't use laminates and veneer edging at present) .  Rather than getting a 1010 router, I'd like something smaller, lighter, with a good sightline to what the bit is doing and good dust collection.  The MFK with a plunge base might meet my ideals.

Dave R.

 

[Notorious T.O.D.]

I think I'll dump the couple of laminate trimmers that I have had for a while and look at getting a 700 in the future.  I like the variable speed, the dust collection and the ease of changing bases and most of all the accurate height adjustment and small size.  I would certainly consider adding a plunge base if one was available too...

Best,
Todd

 

[James Watriss]

I think it'd be cool if they made accessory clamps for the hole drilling jig, that would allow the rail to be mounted at 90 degrees to an edge, for just this sort of thing. Evenly spaced dowel joints for large surfaces, cut with a router.

 

[Notorious T.O.D.]

I like your thought James but I bet that Festool would instead see the joining of large panels to be an operation for the Domino today.  Again, the fun of woodworking is that there are so many ways to accomplish the task and get to the end goal...

Best,
Todd