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jhall

jhall

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I have dw drill and am dying for it to stop working.  My question is, what is the experience with the t15 and is it worth waiting for the t 18?  Also is the new drills coming out going to be different?  Deferent batteries ?
 
As far as i understand, the only difference between current models and the ones upcoming are the addition of an LED light, a clip on the battery, and a charge level display.  Everything else is the same. Been wrong loads of times before though......
 
The newest versions of the T and C series drills will be available in the fall.  The current T series drill are marked down in price so if the new features aren't a big deal to you now is the time to buy.
 
I'm waiting for the new T-18 with laser cross site.  I want to know I'm gonna hit the head of that screw dead-on and the accessory shoulder holster will be a nice addition. Customers will know you mean business.
 
Thanks,  just needed some help in the waiting game.  My current drill should make it tell fall.  Sounds like the t18 should fit right in my tool box.  ::)
 
Ken Nagrod said:
I'm waiting for the new T-18 with laser cross site.  I want to know I'm gonna hit the head of that screw dead-on and the accessory shoulder holster will be a nice addition. Customers will know you mean business.
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Ken, that is either side splitting humour, or you need serious therapy!!! [eek] [eek]
 
Guy Ashley said:
Ken Nagrod said:
I'm waiting for the new T-18 with laser cross site.  I want to know I'm gonna hit the head of that screw dead-on and the accessory shoulder holster will be a nice addition. Customers will know you mean business.
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Ken, that is either side splitting humour, or you need serious therapy!!! [eek] [eek]
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Let's go with side splitting humour.  [wink]
 
I thought everyone knew the laser cross-hairs were for drilling holes, not for driving screws!
 
I thought they were for easily identifying those strange, Canadian fasteners...

Tom
 
So, this is what I am thinking.  I am going to wait on the new 18v t drills until my dw stops working or the batteries die.  The idea of a small drill is really sounding good.  I have never used a c type drill, I am going to stop in and try it.  My question is for the csx and t12  users.  Is there any reason to Waite for the new t12 or does the Csx fill all the needs.  I will be using it for ever thing That I don't need a big drill.
 
jhall said:
So, this is what I am thinking.  I am going to wait on the new 18v t drills until my dw stops working or the batteries die.  The idea of a small drill is really sounding good.  I have never used a c type drill, I am going to stop in and try it.  My question is for the csx and t12  users.  Is there any reason to Waite for the new t12 or does the Csx fill all the needs.  I will be using it for ever thing That I don't need a big drill.
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When I was at Festool training, I used both the new CXS and the new Li-ion C12. The new C12 had a 1.3 amp/h battery and was not really that much bigger/heavier than a cxs.  After using both, I am going to get the new C12 once it is available.

I already have a T15, so I will only need 1 charger (plus I will be able to use the smaller 12v batteries on my T15 if I want...). The new C12 also has an electronic clutch like the T15 does, and a brushless motor.

 
I have the NiCad C12 that I got on the closeout; I love it.

I expected that there may be some adjustment to working with the different handle/profile, and I guess it did take some, but I was surprised at how quickly I did adjust... now I sometimes swap bits repeatedly to avoid using my other drills...  pending the time when I can purchase a C15, of course...

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I thought they were for easily identifying those strange, Canadian fasteners...
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They are called Roberson,if they are a square drive, and are vastly superior to the Phillips , If actually turning the screw is important to you. ;)
Not saying there is anything wrong with wanting to spin the driver tip in the screw head.
 
I don't see the need for a Canadian Standard drive system. Of course, I don't see the need for different plugs for the same voltage/current in the British Isles, mainland Europe, and the U.S.. (I do, however, see self-serving, proprietary, profit-seeking reasons)

I think the star-drive system (Torx) encompasses any advantages that square-drive fasteners have over Posidrive, and certainly Phillips or other U.S. standards. I think the star-drive is superior to the square-drive in holding the fastener and transmitting torque. I also think that it has already dramatically won the global contest for superiority in function and population.

Phillips fasteners are designed to "cam out" so you can't hardly break a quality fastener.

If you want to be able to deliver unlimited torque in a small diameter to a fastener, you don't need a Canadian-centric fastener. Internal hex heads are the long-time standard on multiple continents.

Star-drives were developed, I think, to improve the torque transfer in a smaller diameter. They also had a side benefit of holding a fastener on the end of a driver in free air. That makes a lot of assembly operations more efficient.

I may be missing something but I designed a lot of different machines/processes for a long time and I have studied these things before. I'm always open to learn more, however.

Tom
 
Not to take any sides here, but I have used many types of fasteners in the automotive and construction fields and I am partial to Torx.

LEET !  [big grin]
 
      Well I was a little tongue in cheek with that, and i wouldn't say the Robertson is the end all in fasteners,and i certainly wouldn't start waving a flag about it, but given the choice between that and a Phillips , its no contest,infact i usually throw out any Phillips that come supplied with any fixture and use my own . The fear of snapping screws in a piece of wood outweighs the the "cam out" or spin out feature for me, In fact, I cant see that as a desireable quality for any fastening, if the fastener is breaking off, the drive head is not the problem.Torx is better yet, but not available in general self-tapping wood screws around here.That said, i think lasers in a cordless drill is a great idea,you could at least temporarily stun people trying  to debate fasteners ...
 
Ya I'm with you on not claiming the Robbie as the king. We've had this discussion on here a few times, would like to try more alternates, robbies are just more widely available. as for lasers on drills...........no.
 
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