Dust collection - Trion or Bosch 1591

[Jesus Aleman]

All, I've seen a few threads about the battle of the jigsaws (Bosch 1591 and Trion).  It seems that they are comparable, except in price.  One of the issues that is important to me aside from performance is dust collection.  I heard different opinions on the dust collection of these saws from very good to poor.  How does the dust collection on either of these jigsaws compare to the TS55 (connected to a CT).  I own the TS55 so this will give me a good gauge for which to set my expectations.

Thanks.

JGA.

 

[Bob Marino]

No jigsaw, even a Festool,  with Festool's dust cover in use and vac up to full suction, will give no where near total dust collection. As the blade cuts, you ain't gettin' nothin' captured on the bottom of the workpiece. Lesser jigsaws are far poorer in this regard.

Bob

 

[nickao]

Don't base a jigsaw purchase on dust collection none are quite there yet. The Bosch and Festool are the same, dust all over the place.

I can not use the Festool with the plastic cover on becasue I can  not see the blade. I am not so sure in its current set up even if the dust collection did work it would be effective for me since I have to take that cover off.

 

[Dan Clermont]

All, I've seen a few threads about the battle of the jigsaws (Bosch 1591 and Trion).  It seems that they are comparable, except in price.  One of the issues that is important to me aside from performance is dust collection.  I heard different opinions on the dust collection of these saws from very good to poor.  How does the dust collection on either of these jigsaws compare to the TS55 (connected to a CT).  I own the TS55 so this will give me a good gauge for which to set my expectations.

Thanks.

JGA.

I think the Festool jigsaw does a pretty good job of catching the dust which remains on top of the work piece however it won't capture the dust below as Bob mentioned.

If you were to hold the jigsaw below the work piece and make the cut (with the blade sticking up) it would work better. Don't laugh! This is supposed to be the best way to use a jigsaw without deflecting the blades and it also gives you good line of site with where the blade is cutting. While at Festool School this spring one of the instructors demonstrated this method and it worked well.

I still like to cut from above and can certainly tell when I forgot to re attach the dust shroud on the Trion jigsaw.

Dan Clermont

 

[nickao]

Yep I know a guy that swears  cutting from under with a jig, I still think he is crazy!

 

[mwhafner]

As several others have posted, don't expect full dust collection.  It's just not going to happen.

Both the Bosch with the accessory, and the Festool do a good job with fine particles, but you will get wood chips flying around.  It's just the nature of the beast.

It took me a long time to get used to, but I am now a cutting from the bottom convert (with a barrel grip saw).  I can't saw that it has any impact on blade deflection, but the cut line is completely unobstructed. 

If given the choice, I would probably buy the Bosch.  I do think the Festool does catch marginally more dust and has less blade deflection in heavy cuts, but not enough to justify the price difference.  Either is an excellent machine.

 

[Jesus Aleman]

Thanks guys.  Yes, I wasn't expecting full dust collection.  I just want to get a sense of how much 20%, 50%?  The nature of the beast is that you have an exposed blade going up and down.  The only dust that will be collected will be that trapped on the front of the section of the blade that actually gets into the chamber.

BTW, I saw in one of the European sites that there is a table attachment to invert the saw and use it as a quick and dirty scroll saw.  I'm sure is not as accurate (or safe).

JGA.

 

[marrt]

I bet a jig saw liberates only a fraction of the "bad" dust of a circular saw or sander.  Most of the dust is probably chips.  A nuance...but not necessarily bad for your health because you're not breathing them.  My guess anyway....

 

[bill-e]

Putting the quality of the dust collection aside, using any jigsaw with the vac hose attached for cutting anything but short straight lines is a challenge IMO.  It is difficult enough to follow a line with a good jigsaw without anything pulling at the back of the saw so cutting scroll work with the hose attached is just asking for inaccuracy.

My Trion jigsaw can make a finish quality cut if I use the right blade and speed so when I cut delicate work, the chip guard and vac hose are not attached.

 

[wnagle]

I aggree with you bill e.  I don't use the dust collection or the plastic shield for delicate or curve cuts where I have to follow a line by site.  The amount of dust reduction isn't worth the trade off of visiblity or manuverability.  If Im making a long straight cut on thick material, ( such as making a straight edge on rough sawn lumber where I might not want to use my ts55) using the guide rail adapter and a rail, then I attach the plastic cover and ct33.  Ya still gotta sweep up, dust collection isn't very good on any jig saw in my opinion. 

I have never tried cutting from the bottom as many do... I may try that some time.  I bought the trion barrel grip for its ability to cut a little more square on heavy deep cuts.  I'd like to also have the D handle...maybe I'll try the bosch for that and save a little money.  The jig saw is not a high priority for me here for my use.  Bottom lne, I don't think I'd decide on one or the other based on dust collection.  Nickao likes the bosch better especially for visibility, and he uses it a good bit.  He aslo said the trion gets a better more square cutt in thick lumber...but at twice the price.  As always, it depends on your priorities in useing the tool.