Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet

[J0hn]

Have any of you guys checked out JDS dust collectors. I recently ordered one after doing a lot of research, waiting on it due to backorder. Some of the things it comes standard with, seem to be options on the Laguna.http://jdstools.com/product/2hp-cyclone-2100-ckv/
Have never really looked at Jet DCs Maybe worth a look.

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I have had the 3 hp version of the JDS for about 3 1/2 years now and have been very pleased with the purchase.  At one point the JDS and Laguna looked exactly the same and at the time the JDS did come with some options that were included that Laguna charged for (I think the remote was one of them) 

Mine does have the 'automatic filter cleaner' and be honest - it is so annoying that I disconnected it.  Every time you shut off the system, it would run and makes a heck of a racket

 

[JLMS2010]

I spoke to both Laguna and Oneida reps. Both were very very helpful. I will say Oneida seemed more interested in earning my business than Laguna.  After speaking to Oneida I may go with the V3000 system.  The only thing I don’t like is the remote is a $80 option with Oneida.  I feel at these prices that should be included.

I'm not sure how often these filters will need to be replaced, but the Laguna HEPA on the P Flux I was told is $650.  Oneida is ~$250...

 

[rljatl]

I'm not sure how often these filters will need to be replaced, but the Laguna HEPA on the P Flux I was told is $650.  Oneida is ~$250...

Wow.  Ouch!  [eek]

Doesn't Wynn make filters of any size to order?

 

[JLMS2010]

I'm not sure.  I would think if they can make any size they should be able to.

 

[jacko9]

I spoke to both Laguna and Oneida reps. Both were very very helpful. I will say Oneida seemed more interested in earning my business than Laguna.  After speaking to Oneida I may go with the V3000 system.  The only thing I don’t like is the remote is a $80 option with Oneida.  I feel at these prices that should be included.

I'm not sure how often these filters will need to be replaced, but the Laguna HEPA on the P Flux I was told is $650.  Oneida is ~$250...

I've have not had to replace my filter on my V-3000 it hardly ever gets dirty.  The cyclone really does a great job and the ultra fines in the filter are easily cleaned out every six months or so (depending on use).  Even when I do decide to clean out the filter it is not clogged at all and there is never more than a few cups of ultra fines in there.  The V-3000 is a great system, I only wished that I got it years ago.  I don't use the remote even though I bought two of them I just hang one on the unit and turn it on or off as I walk by.  The option that I find the most useful is the sensor to let you know when it's time to empty the waste bin.  You can set it to trigger at any distance from the top of the waste can but I have it trigger with two inches left to keep debris from overflowing into the filter unit.  The strobe light is very easy to notice and with the proper clearance setting you can finish the cuts your making before emptying the unit.  I have the 35 gal cardboard can that is one good wheel barrel full to bring out to my compost pile.

 

[mwildt]

Interesting thread. For those with these nice dust collectors would you mind commenting on the capacity of the bin ? How fast do they get filled when planing or jointing ?

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Interesting thread. For those with these nice dust collectors would you mind commenting on the capacity of the bin ? How fast do they get filled when planing or jointing ?

I have the 120v Mini Gorilla, which ships with a moulded 22 gallon bin. I have not had a chance to really put it through its paces quite yet. That being said, something to think about is that while the larger bins will allow you to work longer between empties, the larger bins also means larger and heavier dust bags. Given that I am generally processing relatively short runs of materials, I opted for a relatively smaller, more compact bin that keeps the overall footprint of the collector to a minimum. In the occasional event that I am filling multiple bins in a day, the relatively low cost of the liner bags (I think they're around $0.89/bag) still makes this an economical proposition. That's my $0.02  [big grin]

 

[jacko9]

I have the 35 gal. container and it's good for a couple hundred BF of lumber depending on how much stock your taking off.  I purchase all lumber rough cut so I have  a lot more chips to collect to get to finished size (I get much straighter stock this way).  I have my barrel on the mobile stand so I can release the quick disconnect and drop the barrel to wheels free to recycle.

 

[yetihunter]

I spoke to both Laguna and Oneida reps. Both were very very helpful. I will say Oneida seemed more interested in earning my business than Laguna.  After speaking to Oneida I may go with the V3000 system.  The only thing I don’t like is the remote is a $80 option with Oneida.  I feel at these prices that should be included.

I'm not sure how often these filters will need to be replaced, but the Laguna HEPA on the P Flux I was told is $650.  Oneida is ~$250...

An Oneida rep called me up, this Friday, coincidentally. 
I fail to remember her name but she was definitely the most uncannily knowledged
salesperson I've ever spoken to.  I was beyond impressed.
Also ran, if you've got the available amps, get an Oneida and be done with it.

Despite the previous endorsement, if you can afford Festool, you can do better than Grizzly.    The Taiwanese and Chinese machines may all come from the same factories, but you will always get the build, parts and qc that you pay for. 

 

[JBag09]

I was looking at some Jet and Laguna DCs earlier today, and the way my new shop will be set up I just couldn’t decide if they would work. What’s everyone opinion on the Clearvue Cyclones? I think they are a bit expensive for what they are, but everyone that has them seem to rave over them

 

[JLMS2010]

I wonder if you spoke to the same lady I did. Yes, she was extremely knowledgeable. I’m leaning heavily towards Oneida.

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Not sure if this helps, but this might help demonstrate the relatively small footprint the Mini Gorilla occupies. Love the extractor so far, now considering a Dust Cobra for my smaller tools....

 

[RogerConnerTN]

My shop has four Jet dust collectors, including three of the 1.5 HP dust collectors.  We are a coop shop with a lot of members who come in at off hours and  . . . let's say use the equipment very hard.  These dust collectors have survived and thrived despite a lot of abuse!  Don't know anything about the Laguna rig, but I wouldn't change brands if I needed to add one. 

 

[estley]

i had been looking pretty hard at the 1.5 pFlux, but since i'll only be using it on one tool at a time, the mini gorilla is becoming more and more attractive. I'm planning on ordering one soon.

i know this has been discussed, but i have the attention span of a kitten. What makes more sense, run the largest diameter hose up to the tool, then reduce, or reduce at the inlet of the cyclone?

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[Tom the Remodeler]

i had been looking pretty hard at the 1.5 pFlux, but since i'll only be using it on one tool at a time, the mini gorilla is becoming more and more attractive. I'm planning on ordering one soon.

i know this has been discussed, but i have the attention span of a kitten. What makes more sense, run the largest diameter hose up to the tool, then reduce, or reduce at the inlet of the cyclone?

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When I purchased my Mini Gorilla, Oneida recommended using the largest possible diameter hose, and reducing at the tool. I opted to go with a 5” diameter, 12’ long flex hose with a 5”-to-4” reducer at the tool-end of the hose.

 

[estley]

i had been looking pretty hard at the 1.5 pFlux, but since i'll only be using it on one tool at a time, the mini gorilla is becoming more and more attractive. I'm planning on ordering one soon.

i know this has been discussed, but i have the attention span of a kitten. What makes more sense, run the largest diameter hose up to the tool, then reduce, or reduce at the inlet of the cyclone?

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When I purchased my Mini Gorilla, Oneida recommended using the largest possible diameter hose, and reducing at the tool. I opted to go with a 5” diameter, 12’ long flex hose with a 5”-to-4” reducer at the tool-end of the hose.

that actually works perfectly, my TS has a 4 inch outlet, but my bandsaw is 5. So it sounds a little dumb to reduced it at the cyclone only to re-enlarge it at the bandsaw. Might as well just put a 5-4 reducer at the table saw.

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[Cheese]

i know this has been discussed, but i have the attention span of a kitten. What makes more sense, run the largest diameter hose up to the tool, then reduce, or reduce at the inlet of the cyclone?

When I purchased my Mini Gorilla, Oneida recommended using the largest possible diameter hose, and reducing at the tool. I opted to go with a 5” diameter, 12’ long flex hose with a 5”-to-4” reducer at the tool-end of the hose.

that actually works perfectly, my TS has a 4 inch outlet, but my bandsaw is 5. So it sounds a little dumb to reduced it at the cyclone only to re-enlarge it at the bandsaw. Might as well just put a 5-4 reducer at the table saw.

My table saw, planer & band saw all sit within a few feet of each other. The table saw & planer both have 4" outlets, while the band saw is 2 1/2". By running 4" hose all the way from my Jet, I can easily swap between the table saw & planer. Then when I use the band saw, I just add a simple 4" to 2 1/2" adapter.

 

[JBag09]

Just found out, well had to call them and ask, that JDS dust collectors are no more. So guess I’ll be searching again for a DC, think I’m going to look at the Oneida V-System 5000, was going to look at Clearvue but they are a bit much and can’t seem to find any discounts.

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[BarneyD]

A couple of years ago I decided to upgrade my dust collection. I'm just a hobbyist (one man shop).  Was going to buy the Oneida V2000. The chap at Oneida that I talked with agreed that the 2Hp would be sufficient, but the 3HP model was on sale that week for less than $100 over the 2HP.  So I went that route and could not be happier. I've dealt with Oneida many times over the years and have nothing but good things to say about them.

 

[J0hn]

I looked at the ClearVue - just couldn't make it work.  I have a 3 stall garage that I didn't want to turn into a dedicated woodshop....  I even created a 3d diagram in sketchup to see the various ways to run the ducting from a small 'shed' that I was going to build behind the garage, and finally decided that it was not the way I wanted to go

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That is when I decided on the Laguna/JDS type system.  If I am doing other things in my garage - working on cars or my motorcycle or heaven forbid, actually park cars in there, I can get all my tools into the single stall which leaves me with the two stalls open.  Works for me - something to think about