Given the recent debate over the new Festool cyclone has anyone posted a side by side performance review yet? If Festool claims superior performance then why haven't they produced their own video? Anyhow curious to see how they perform side by side etc.
Dust Deputy vs CT Cyclone performance tests?
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Michael Kellough
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They are not identical products so a direct comparison is not possible.
If dust collection is your only interest just go ahead and buy the Dust Deputy.
If dust collection is your only interest just go ahead and buy the Dust Deputy.
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I believe both are to save bags replacement. Not sure if the Festool cyclone add to the suction but I doubt it. That being said the DD is more bulky and is a better fit in shop where the Festool cyclone would shine better on site.
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They’re both nominally dust separators but one is designed to be portable and other not so much. Assuming they are equal at their primary function it’s their other features that would lead you to make a choice.
Assuming the Festool is not equal to the DD as a dust separator there are still plenty of people who will choose it over the DD just because it’s more portable, or just because it looks better, or just because you can lock Systainers on top, or just because it’s made by Festool.
To me the differences outweigh the similarity so they aren’t really comparable.
Assuming the Festool is not equal to the DD as a dust separator there are still plenty of people who will choose it over the DD just because it’s more portable, or just because it looks better, or just because you can lock Systainers on top, or just because it’s made by Festool.
To me the differences outweigh the similarity so they aren’t really comparable.
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i think its a reasonable request, not sure why the hostility.
performance test is what is asked for - not convenience, or a myriad of reasons listed here why individuals are justifying the festool to themselves
performance test is what is asked for - not convenience, or a myriad of reasons listed here why individuals are justifying the festool to themselves
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[member=68525]usernumber1[/member] Welcome to the FOG, I agree that there is no room for hostility. Personally I do not find the FOG community to be hostile nor aggressive. I see the community as a bunch of people a like that have a lot in commun.
Folks on FOG try to expose their experience with what they have and what they know. Sometimes a discussion can go off the subject but this is something that can happen on any discussion forum unfortunately. If people reply to a simple question with a simple answer, a good portion of those questions would have zero answer. Not being a psychologist, I know that the perception a person can have from a no reply to a simple question is reject. You rarely see that on the FOG hopefully [big grin]
Now the OP question: I am willing to make a review and comparison between the Oneida DD (I own one) and the Festool Cyclone, if Festool USA want to sent me a unit [cool] I have a CT-26 and would even buy a second one just for that [wink]... well okay, I may need a second one [embarassed]
Folks on FOG try to expose their experience with what they have and what they know. Sometimes a discussion can go off the subject but this is something that can happen on any discussion forum unfortunately. If people reply to a simple question with a simple answer, a good portion of those questions would have zero answer. Not being a psychologist, I know that the perception a person can have from a no reply to a simple question is reject. You rarely see that on the FOG hopefully [big grin]
Now the OP question: I am willing to make a review and comparison between the Oneida DD (I own one) and the Festool Cyclone, if Festool USA want to sent me a unit [cool] I have a CT-26 and would even buy a second one just for that [wink]... well okay, I may need a second one [embarassed]
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Hi!
I'm pretty sure, once the "usual suspects" get their hands on the CT Cyclone there will be plenty of reviews, tests, comparisons ...
Kind regards,
Oliver
I'm pretty sure, once the "usual suspects" get their hands on the CT Cyclone there will be plenty of reviews, tests, comparisons ...
Kind regards,
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It would be interesting for a review to be done between the two units, but perhaps that review really needs to be done with some forward thinking about how the units are designed and intended.
The Festool unit is in my mind clearly intended for a wide variety of work but primarily for mobile situations. The Dust Deputy is really more designed for stationary or mobile only in the same workspace (shop, garage, etc.)
Festool mentions that in conjunction with the approved CT's it will meet the silica guidelines here in the US. There is no mention of that from Dust Deputy as far as I know. This would indicate to me that the design of the Festool product was more towards the portability needs of the carpenter / contractor who operates primarily outside of a semi-static environment.
I don't believe that these two products can be objectively compared on an apple to apple basis just like a standard big box circular saw can not be objectively compared to a track saw from any manufacturer. They may do the same thing (cut wood) but their intended purposes are ultimately different as well as their setup and usage.
Just my thoughts.
Peter
The Festool unit is in my mind clearly intended for a wide variety of work but primarily for mobile situations. The Dust Deputy is really more designed for stationary or mobile only in the same workspace (shop, garage, etc.)
Festool mentions that in conjunction with the approved CT's it will meet the silica guidelines here in the US. There is no mention of that from Dust Deputy as far as I know. This would indicate to me that the design of the Festool product was more towards the portability needs of the carpenter / contractor who operates primarily outside of a semi-static environment.
I don't believe that these two products can be objectively compared on an apple to apple basis just like a standard big box circular saw can not be objectively compared to a track saw from any manufacturer. They may do the same thing (cut wood) but their intended purposes are ultimately different as well as their setup and usage.
Just my thoughts.
Peter
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Peter: I agree with you.
The two products are “aimed” at two different market segments.
Ergo... Though they invariably will be compared - It’ll be an “apples and oranges” comparison.
One needs to view Festool’s new Separator in light of Festool’s continuing business model and market focus - Which is primarily the “on site” tradesman.
The entirety of their product line has always been dedicated to “portability” (even the fold-up MFT’s).
The “woodworking” segment of the tool business is minor in comparison to the potential/actual construction trade segment.
Given that consideration, neat as their new Separator is, other than the space saving “stackability” atop a Festool Dust Extractor - I, as a “workshop” woodworker - Won’t be inclined to trade my Dust Deputies in for this new product, neat as it apparently seems to be.
Were I an “on site” tradesman - Moving my tools/equipment about regularly - I be “chomping at the bit”, awaiting its availability.
The two products are “aimed” at two different market segments.
Ergo... Though they invariably will be compared - It’ll be an “apples and oranges” comparison.
One needs to view Festool’s new Separator in light of Festool’s continuing business model and market focus - Which is primarily the “on site” tradesman.
The entirety of their product line has always been dedicated to “portability” (even the fold-up MFT’s).
The “woodworking” segment of the tool business is minor in comparison to the potential/actual construction trade segment.
Given that consideration, neat as their new Separator is, other than the space saving “stackability” atop a Festool Dust Extractor - I, as a “workshop” woodworker - Won’t be inclined to trade my Dust Deputies in for this new product, neat as it apparently seems to be.
Were I an “on site” tradesman - Moving my tools/equipment about regularly - I be “chomping at the bit”, awaiting its availability.
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what i'm noticing is the defense of festool cyclone as if there's a bias that it might not perform as well as DT .
there's a possibility that the DT does not perform anywhere near the CT cyclone does. that would be very interesting.
thanks for the welcome!
there's a possibility that the DT does not perform anywhere near the CT cyclone does. that would be very interesting.
thanks for the welcome!
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usernumber1 said:
I hope my post didn't help you come to your conclusion. My post encouraged a comparison but mentioned that the two items were not direct competitors.
Peter
I would be interested in seeing a comparison of the two as well. We have lots of other comparison videos, this would be useful.
Price wise the Festool one is a bit more expensive ($375 vs. $299), but not so much difference that I would pick one over the other based on price alone.
Thanks.
Price wise the Festool one is a bit more expensive ($375 vs. $299), but not so much difference that I would pick one over the other based on price alone.
Thanks.
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As a mobile Reno contractor, I am not sure the CT version or the DD one is for me.
I like the idea of pulling the bag out and tossing it without the added dust from dumping a canister/systainer.
I currently don’t have either, so maybe I don’t know what I’m missing.
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I like the idea of pulling the bag out and tossing it without the added dust from dumping a canister/systainer.
I currently don’t have either, so maybe I don’t know what I’m missing.
Charlie
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