Dust extractor

[marcustait79]

Recently invested in my first festool a TS55 and am very happy!

I'm looking to invest next in an extraction unit and have seen some YouTube discussion on the subject of hose diameter.  Any pointers on this subject from more seasoned Festool enthusiasts?

I also want to utilise the extractor on my desktop CNC router and intend to make this shroudhttps://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=u16fd37dd-76ff-4c33-b74d-f59c8a391a43 to facilitate whichever Festool extractor hose combination I choose.

 

[Holmz]

A search will show a lot of discussion.
Starmix, Bosch, CT26 should show something. Not sure what is in Qatar, so if it is Bosch, then you can hook that up.
They work about the same.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Holmz, I guess that since he asked this on a Festool forum he's mostly interested in a Festool vac.

As for the CNC, a Festool vac might work if it's not too big and you have the hose located at the right spot. But generally, Festool vacs are not meant for stationary machines but for hand tools.

Most hand power tools work great with Festools' 27 mm hose that comes standard with every vac. The bigger 36 mm hose gives you better suction, but only such tools as a planer or a router that produce big chips really benefit from that hose. On a saw like the TS55 the advantage of the 36 mm hose is only marginally, the 27 already does a good job. But for most smaller tools the 27 mm is best, the 36 mm won't even fit most of them.

And then there are several types of vacs to choose from, you have to weigh the importance of storage capacity against mobility. If you want to have lots of mobility, take your vac wherever you go, the smaller CT Mini/Midi models are a good choice. If you're mostly shop based and you prefer not to change bags so often, the bigger CT26/36/48 can be considered.

All current Festool vacs have about the same suction strenght, so the only difference it really boils down to is its size and storage capacity. The CT 26 is the best all-round model.

 

[Holmz]

Holmz, I guess that since he asked this on a Festool forum he's mostly interested in a Festool vac.
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True  [member=5277]Alex[/member]  - I keep thinking it is a woodworking forum.

Whatever happened with the fellow from Arizona whose CT?? machine was shutting off due to the heat?
Was that ambient heat, or the bag being packed full?

 

[marcustait79]

Thanks guys appreciate the input.  Do all the Vacs support the plug it hose where vac starts with the power tool being used, or does this come as an option in the more expensive vacs?

My cnc is just a little desktop machine and the dust coming off her is comparable to the TS55 in my estimation at least.

Is anyone able to put a vernier across their 27 and 36mm hoses to give me a fairly accurate OD so I can design my router shroud accordingly?  I'm tempted to go for the 36mm hose and make or buy an adapter for use with my TS55..............Any thoughts or experiences with this approach?

 

[peter halle]

All the Festool dust extractors have the powered receptacle with auto-start.  All the extractors automatically come with the 27 mm hose as standard.  You would need to purchase any larger hose separately.  Depending on whether or not you feel that the anti-static properties of the larger hose would have a benefit for you you can save some money by looking at the non anti-static models from Festool or even other manufacturers.

Peter

 

[Bohdan]

Is anyone able to put a vernier across their 27 and 36mm hoses to give me a fairly accurate OD so I can design my router shroud accordingly?  I'm tempted to go for the 36mm hose and make or buy an adapter for use with my TS55..............Any thoughts or experiences with this approach?

The 27 mm hose fits inside your TS55 and the 36mm hose will fit on the outside so you can take your dimensions from your TS55.

 

[Holmz]

Thanks guys appreciate the input.  Do all the Vacs support the plug it hose where vac starts with the power tool being used, or does this come as an option in the more expensive vacs?
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Assuming that the male wall end plugs into the vac, then many (if not all) have the autostart feature.

 

[AlexThePalex]

All vacs support the Plug-It hose. You need to buy that hose separately.

 

[Stone Message]

What a coincidence...

I have a small CNC (large X-Carve) and I am about to make a dust catcher for it. I will be using my CT26 for the vacuum but probably not a standard Festool hose as it may be too heavy for a small CNC setup. I will try a 27 mm hose but will have an old lightweight hose (probably once used with a Bosch tool) for the final connection to the CNC. I suspect that the CT26 will be more powerful than required so will either turn the power down on the front panel or allow a "bleed" at some point between the CT and the CNC.

Incidentally, does anyone in the UK know where I can get the hairy stuff that I need for the dust catcher?

Peter

 

[CrazyLarry]

What a coincidence...

I have a small CNC (large X-Carve) and I am about to make a dust catcher for it. I will be using my CT26 for the vacuum but probably not a standard Festool hose as it may be too heavy for a small CNC setup. I will try a 27 mm hose but will have an old lightweight hose (probably once used with a Bosch tool) for the final connection to the CNC. I suspect that the CT26 will be more powerful than required so will either turn the power down on the front panel or allow a "bleed" at some point between the CT and the CNC.

Incidentally, does anyone in the UK know where I can get the hairy stuff that I need for the dust catcher?

Peter

Do you mean the stuff referenced in this post:

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/kapex-dust-collection-modification/150/

 

[Stone Message]

Do you mean the stuff referenced in this post:

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/kapex-dust-collection-modification/150/

Yes, that sort of thing but the Kapex material looks a little too stiff/big for a small CNC.

It is a EU/UK source that I am after as I have been paying out a fortune in VAT and handling charges for small items sent from outside Europe.

Peter

 

[CrazyLarry]

http://www.jaseals.co.uk/c-industrial_brush_strips.htm

Any good?

 

[Stone Message]

http://www.jaseals.co.uk/c-industrial_brush_strips.htm

Any good?

Brilliant - many thanks.

Peter

 

[jbasen]

If you want to hook up a festool vac to a cnc then I would suggest using a vaccum with the festool boom arm that will support the majority of the weight of the hose.  The boom arm won't work with the smaller ct mini or midi.  You can make your own boom arm but the festool one is nice.

 

[CrazyLarry]

Holmz, I guess that since he asked this on a Festool forum he's mostly interested in a Festool vac.

Even though I believe you are correct that the op is probably more interested in a Festool vac, I wonder if this type of attempted censorship is the reason some people come here and then leave.

I see no censorship attempted or otherwise, the post is in Festool tools and accessories in Festool discussions!

IT would be astounding (odd / misguided / some agenda) to not at least start out with a focus on festool?

 

[semenza]

Holmz, I guess that since he asked this on a Festool forum he's mostly interested in a Festool vac.

Even though I believe you are correct that the op is probably more interested in a Festool vac, I wonder if this type of attempted censorship is the reason some people come here and then leave.

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    It swings both ways. I have actually received complaints, and we have had members leave because they wanted to know about Festool not brand 'X' .

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    Especially lately, it is a frequent occurrence that someone comes to the Festool Owners Group to ask specifically about a Festool product and many of the replies are that they should look at some other brand, or why buy Festool if something else does the job. Nothing wrong with talking about other brands on FOG. It is a Hallmark of the forum that discussion of other brands is allowed. But there are times that it gets a little over the top considering this is a forum dedicated to Festool.

Seth

 

[AlexThePalex]

Holmz, I guess that since he asked this on a Festool forum he's mostly interested in a Festool vac.

Even though I believe you are correct that the op is probably more interested in a Festool vac, I wonder if this type of attempted censorship is the reason some people come here and then leave.

John, if this bothers you, then from my point of view you're welcome to do so.

In the mean time, I'd like to add, -with some emphasis-, Holmz is the type of person to go to a strip club EVERY day, to tell the strippers to get some clothes on. Frankly, this attitude bothers me. If you don't like stripping, dont go to the strip club. If you don't like Festool, don't go to the Festool forum.

Maybe read back the first post. OP asks a question specifically about Festool. Holmz has nothing to offer that helps the OP except once again trying to steer people in a different direction. Since a very large number of his posts boil down to this, I get the feeling he mainly comes on this forum every day with the intent to tell people they should look somewhere else than Festool.

I find this behaviour disruptive. No matter in what social situation you come, be it a sports club, a restaurant or an internet forum, if you go against the grain you will eventually elicit a reaction. Just normal human behaviour. It is not censorship either, because as a normal user of this forum I have no power to censor anything or anybody. It is feedback, and I will give it where I think it is needed.

There has been some drama here lately, and I think it's mostly due to an influx of anti-festool people, not because of regulars like me reacting to them. Throw a firecracker in calm water and the once so calm water will now ripple furiously.

Regarding your comment about  "people come here and then leave", if you check this forum's statistics page you will see sign up and participation on this forum is higher THAN EVER the last 2 years. 

Despite of what some people think, some drama only adds to the experience. Secretly, drama can be highly entertaining.

Whoops, one little comment and the threads' derailed again. Thanks John. Thanks Holmz. I was the one helping the OP, and both your comments amount to nothing.

 

[GarryMartin]

I'm looking to invest next in an extraction unit and have seen some YouTube discussion on the subject of hose diameter.  Any pointers on this subject from more seasoned Festool enthusiasts?

The larger hoses support a higher airflow.

Ordinarily, the 27mm hoses suit tools such as sanders, the Domino, the MFK 700, the OF 1010 router and similar machines. The 36mm is better for tools such as the KAPEX, the TS 55 and TS 75, and the OF 1400 and OF 2200 routers.

Both the 27mm hose and the 36mm hose fit tools such as the TS 55 and TS 75, either by being pushed in to the dust shroud, or by fitting over the dust shroud. What you can also do is use a small section of 27mm hose (referred to sometimes as a whip hose on this forum) in the end of a 36mm hose if required.

For the purposes you mention, I'd recommend the 36mm hose if you can find an appropriate way to balance the hose for CNC use. I don't believe Qatar suffers from the humidity problems that can cause static issues, so you might want to choose the non anti-static hose as that is lighter and more flexible than its anti-static brethren.

 

[semenza]

Thanks for the input / info Garry. And  [thumbs up] on the new signature line!

Also [member=58632]marcustait79[/member] , welcome to the forum!  [smile]

Seth