DW735 Planer and Byrd Shelix Head Cutter
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[member=19734]grbmds[/member]
Thanks for the info. I may have some time tomorrow to do as you suggest. I'll be a happy camper if this will solve my snipe problem. To be clear, the 735 does not have near the snipe that my old 733 had. Glad those days are over.
Off topic: We just moved from Oak Park back to sunny New Mexico about three years ago. Are you in Evanston or thereabouts?
Thanks for the info. I may have some time tomorrow to do as you suggest. I'll be a happy camper if this will solve my snipe problem. To be clear, the 735 does not have near the snipe that my old 733 had. Glad those days are over.
Off topic: We just moved from Oak Park back to sunny New Mexico about three years ago. Are you in Evanston or thereabouts?
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patriot said:
I believe the torque value for the insert screw is 45-55 in-lb (5.0-6.2 nm).
As to the "scalloping" in my experience you will only notice this on the 1st grit of sanding as the material being removed on the "high" spots gathers in the "low" spots - it is not apparent or visible when holding a board up to view the surface in a direct light source without magnification. It quickly melts away in a few passes of 100-120 grit ROS sanding. I seriously doubt there is even 0.001" (0.025mm) of profile so unless your practice is to go directly to applying finish from the planer without sanding or scraping it is a non-issue.
[member=60975]kevinculle[/member]
Thanks for the info.
The scalloping sounds minimal at best assuming a well tuned cutter head. From what I have determined Byrd cutter heads are now out of stock. I sent them an email last night requesting info on availability. Will post that info when and if I hear back from them.
I appreciate your post.
Thanks for the info.
The scalloping sounds minimal at best assuming a well tuned cutter head. From what I have determined Byrd cutter heads are now out of stock. I sent them an email last night requesting info on availability. Will post that info when and if I hear back from them.
I appreciate your post.
[member=49475]patriot[/member] you might want to check with Holbren and see if they have stock.
https://www.holbren.com/Byrd_Tool_B4725
Ron
https://www.holbren.com/Byrd_Tool_B4725
Ron
[member=3192]rvieceli[/member]
I just heard back from Holbren: They have no stock and have been promised by Byrd to take delivery of these heads in about three months. Byrd Tool told them that delivery for new orders is about FIVE months.
Being the cautious (suspicious?) fellow that I am, I am wondering if Byrd has decided to outsource (China?) this product, which, in my mind anyway, would explain the very long delivery delay.
I hope I'm wrong on this.
I just heard back from Holbren: They have no stock and have been promised by Byrd to take delivery of these heads in about three months. Byrd Tool told them that delivery for new orders is about FIVE months.
Being the cautious (suspicious?) fellow that I am, I am wondering if Byrd has decided to outsource (China?) this product, which, in my mind anyway, would explain the very long delivery delay.
I hope I'm wrong on this.
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On Byrd's website, under the home of the Shelix, is this statement:
Byrd Tool has served the woodworking industry since 1979. We proudly manufacture our products in the USA right here in Central Kentucky.
Also on the Byrd website, they state that there is a minimum of a 3 month lead time for Dewalt 735 Shelix head sets.
Byrd Tool has served the woodworking industry since 1979. We proudly manufacture our products in the USA right here in Central Kentucky.
Also on the Byrd website, they state that there is a minimum of a 3 month lead time for Dewalt 735 Shelix head sets.
[member=44099]Cheese[/member]
I just received an email from Brian Holbren and he made it clear that that Byrd has not outsourced the DW735 cutter head. He also said that this product has been their - " ... #1 seller ever since it came out, demand is just very high and they are very busy."
What a concept: An American company that cannot keep up with demand for their good product. I will always go out of my way to buy American when I can.
That said, I just placed my order. I will more than happy to wait 3-5 months for my Byrd cutter head. No problem.
Thanks for your post.
I just received an email from Brian Holbren and he made it clear that that Byrd has not outsourced the DW735 cutter head. He also said that this product has been their - " ... #1 seller ever since it came out, demand is just very high and they are very busy."
What a concept: An American company that cannot keep up with demand for their good product. I will always go out of my way to buy American when I can.
That said, I just placed my order. I will more than happy to wait 3-5 months for my Byrd cutter head. No problem.
Thanks for your post.
montyss said:
Thanks for the info.
As for Brian I'll say this: He was very quick to respond when I emailed him and was up front with the delivery delay info, so I would have to agree with you. My order is now in.
I've had a Craftsman torque wrench for years, so I'm good to go. Now I just have to wait five months to use it. [eek]
Paul G said:
Brians exact words were (from his email to me):
"If you were willing to wait, place the order over the phone. That way we will not charge your credit card until it ships.
Thanks
Brian
Holbren"
Since it takes so long to be delivered I will probably forget and wonder what the heck my UPS guy just delivered. [scratch chin]
Hope this helps.
patriot said:
haha! I feel the same way. Hopefully when i get mine I'll actually have some time to install it! I've watched the installation videos enough by now, I'll be able to do it in my sleep!
Good luck! I'll let you know when mine gets delivered to see if they are shipping them out in batches or they'll get them all at once.
I just got one of those fancy new calculators ... click, click, click, click, ...
And if I buy a Byrd cutter for my DJ-20 and another one for my DW735 that's rounds out nicely to $1K + s/h.
And ... the price of a new Hammer A3-31 with one of them fancy 'Silent Power' spiral cutter heads is $4K + s/h.
So, ... what I've been thinking is the A3-31 will replace two large machines in my work shop, so what I've been thinking ...
Anybody wanna guess what I've been thinking? [popcorn]
And if I buy a Byrd cutter for my DJ-20 and another one for my DW735 that's rounds out nicely to $1K + s/h.
And ... the price of a new Hammer A3-31 with one of them fancy 'Silent Power' spiral cutter heads is $4K + s/h.
So, ... what I've been thinking is the A3-31 will replace two large machines in my work shop, so what I've been thinking ...
Anybody wanna guess what I've been thinking? [popcorn]
[member=13462]live4ever[/member]
Thanks for your post.
My DJ-20 has an 8-inch planing width and if I'm reading the stats correctly, the A3-31 has a 12-inch planing width giving me an additional 4-inch of cutter. Some of the rough lumber I use is over 12-inches in width and the A3-41 would be perfect for that, but I think I can live without that convenience.
I have found a used used A3-31 for $2K, but I never buy used unless I can actually see and test the tool first. Too bad this machine was not in Dallas because I would be tempted to drive down and take a look at it. Anyway, looking at the exposed prices you'll see that the A3-31 is cheaper than the A3-26 which tells me that the A3-31 must either be a much older machine than the A3-26 or it is damaged in some way. If it was covered with a New Warranty that would be another story.
Oh, well. [unsure]
Thanks for your post.
My DJ-20 has an 8-inch planing width and if I'm reading the stats correctly, the A3-31 has a 12-inch planing width giving me an additional 4-inch of cutter. Some of the rough lumber I use is over 12-inches in width and the A3-41 would be perfect for that, but I think I can live without that convenience.
I have found a used used A3-31 for $2K, but I never buy used unless I can actually see and test the tool first. Too bad this machine was not in Dallas because I would be tempted to drive down and take a look at it. Anyway, looking at the exposed prices you'll see that the A3-31 is cheaper than the A3-26 which tells me that the A3-31 must either be a much older machine than the A3-26 or it is damaged in some way. If it was covered with a New Warranty that would be another story.
Oh, well. [unsure]
Paul G said:
If you're asking about the A3-31, I haven't decided on that purchase yet. If you're asking about the K3, it has been promised by the end of this month but I'm not holding my breath.
Going off topic if I may: I may not like the fact that I would be forced to feed in long and potentially heavy stock onto a planer bed that is probably at my knee height or slightly above. Yes, I could make infeed/outfeed extentions to alleviate that which would probably make that task much easier. But the truth to the matter is that I have zero experience at this, so my concerns on this may not even be in the ball park. I do recall reading some commentary somewhere that some user thought the Hammer A3-31 extentions were not worth the extra expense. Again, that is one persons opinion.
I really wish I could see one of these machine in person. Perhaps I should give my Felder rep a call on this. There may be one close by.
Thanks!
