Ebay Festool Wristwatch

[lpand]

What's up with all the Festool branded wristwatches on Ebay.  I didn't open all of the pages but the ones I did open the sellers were based out of Hong Kong.  I can't imagine these can be legit?  If these are non-sanctioned Festool branded products why doesn't Festool demand tha Ebay remove the lstings?

Sorry if this has been discussed in a previous posting.

 

[peter halle]

Please send Shane a link to one of the pages. 

Thanks,

Peter

 

[whitesys]

Here are several  (just search EBay for Festool)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Festool-Power-Tools-Wood-Working-Sport-Metal-Watch-/180820448094?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&vxp=mtr&hash=item2a19bd135e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FESTOOL-POWERTOOLS-120-EB-GRIT-VELCRO-SYSTAINER-WRISTWATCH-/180820001108?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&vxp=mtr&hash=item2a19b64154

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FESTOOL-CIRCULAR-HANDSAW-ATF-TS-55-EQ-Plunge-Cut-Jig-ROUTER-2000-E-Wristwatch-/150758317084?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&vxp=mtr&hash=item2319e55c1c

Dave

 

[Kev]

There's little that can be done about these little disasters ... for a giggle ... type in "Bosch watch" ... it's bad - but the best thing you can do is not touch them and advise the people you know to avoid them too.

The one that really ticks me off is the clown selling "bound copies" of Festool product manuals (yes - prints the PDF and sells it).

Each seller needs to be reported to Ebay for brand infringement by Festool ... but more will probably just pop up  [unsure]

 

[Alan m]

There's little that can be done about these little disasters ... for a giggle ... type in "Bosch watch" ... it's bad - but the best thing you can do is not touch them and advise the people you know to avoid them too.

The one that really ticks me off is the clown selling "bound copies" of Festool product manuals (yes - prints the PDF and sells it).

Each seller needs to be reported to Ebay for brand infringement by Festool ... but more will probably just pop up  [unsure]

these people are in china where our copy right system is ignored. when a case is lodged againt a chineese company its the chinesse who deal with it . there should be a world wide agency.

bound copys of maunuals [scared] please . who would but them. if you have the tools , you have them dumped in a drawer somewhere.
if they were the suplimentry ones now that would be worth buying.

as a side note , im sure a set of those suplimentry manuals would sell if hard back spiral bound so they lay flat. i hate reading things like that off the pc so print them out on a crappy printer

 

[Kev]

There's little that can be done about these little disasters ... for a giggle ... type in "Bosch watch" ... it's bad - but the best thing you can do is not touch them and advise the people you know to avoid them too.

The one that really ticks me off is the clown selling "bound copies" of Festool product manuals (yes - prints the PDF and sells it).

Each seller needs to be reported to Ebay for brand infringement by Festool ... but more will probably just pop up  [unsure]

these people are in china where our copy right system is ignored. when a case is lodged againt a chineese company its the chinesse who deal with it . there should be a world wide agency.

bound copys of maunuals [scared] please . who would but them. if you have the tools , you have them dumped in a drawer somewhere.
if they were the suplimentry ones now that would be worth buying.

as a side note , im sure a set of those suplimentry manuals would sell if hard back spiral bound so they lay flat. i hate reading things like that off the pc so print them out on a crappy printer

I thing your solution is a decent printer  [big grin]

 

[peter halle]

In the past when I have forwarded to Shane links, eBay has responded.  As it has been said, it is nothing for one company to disappear and another pop up.  Welcome to the other side of the electronic ages.

The manuals being printed and sold is a similar situation although I can't remember it being addressed before EXCEPT for the supplemental manuals.  I remember reading about someone in the US selling the supplemental manuals and Rick being notified and having that practice curtailed. 

If you see stuff like this - use of the Festool logo on stuff that you don't think fits the norm for quality or price, please cut and paste the link and send in an email to Shane.  Shane, and Festool, takes this stuff seriously, and just because you see it available elsewhere in the world and don't think that something can be done, please remember that Shane has contacts thru out the Festool organization.

Sorry for my long windedness.

Peter

 

[EWTHeckman]

If you see stuff like this - use of the Festool logo on stuff that you don't think fits the norm for quality or price, please cut and paste the link and send in an email to Shane.  Shane, and Festool, takes this stuff seriously, and just because you see it available elsewhere in the world and don't think that something can be done, please remember that Shane has contacts thru out the Festool organization.

So we should also be sending Shane links to Festool items that are priced above Festool's prices?

 

[peter halle]

If you see stuff like this - use of the Festool logo on stuff that you don't think fits the norm for quality or price, please cut and paste the link and send in an email to Shane.  Shane, and Festool, takes this stuff seriously, and just because you see it available elsewhere in the world and don't think that something can be done, please remember that Shane has contacts thru out the Festool organization.

So we should also be sending Shane links to Festool items that are priced above Festool's prices?

Perhaps I should have worded it beter.  For example, If you see a Festool watch being sold on eBay for .99 and then has shipping charge of $14.99 and then at the bottom of the page there is a disclaimer and also instructions to trademark holders that if they feel that their rights are being infringed upon to contact them to have the items removed, then that is a pretty good indication that the infringement of rights is a common enough occurrence to make such a disclaimer part of the norm versus an accident.  Yes please let someone know.

 

[semenza]

Those knock off watches are on Ebay all the time. The only official Festool watches I have seen are the 25th ROTEX,  a 75th Anniversary watch, and recently a real nice top brand (forget brand) that was fairly pricey. There may be others but I havn't seen them.

Seth

 

[fdengel]

It's not just Festool either.  It has happened for popular wireless microphone systems, among other things -- Chineese rip-offs that look the same in the listing, but are not.

 

[Sean.M]

I think a lot of stuff sold on ebay are fakes and refurbs. It has become a breeding ground for low quality stuff. Don't get me wrong I will buy on there sometimes but over all the site has changed a lot in the last 7 years.

The worst is ioffer, that is ebay's dirty little sister, owned by ebay but they let people sell fake software, fake glasses, fake Northface, fake most things.

Once ebay bought paypal and eliminated paying by money order making paypal the way to pay the site went to crap imo.

Here are some more China Festool watches on ioffer. http://www.ioffer.com/search/items/festool