Just took out the ETS125 sander I bought yesterday to use it and found that the 36 mm hose fitting won't fit on the 125's dust port. I never imagined this would be a problem given the Festool attention to detail and the tools being part of a close system so to speak. What do I have to buy to make the hose fit? (Also surprised that the Festool non-anti-static hose I bought to use with my Fein vac won't fit the dust port on the 125 either. Please provide the part number for the adapter I assume I need.
ETS 125 Dust Port & Festool 36 mm hose fitting
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Festool doesn't have an adapter for this in their line. You can buy one from Nilfisk-Alto though. They make most of Festool's vacuum accessories.
http://www.industrialvacs.com/Tool_Socket_connects_suction_hose_to_power_tool_p/h302000535.htm
The sanders are meant to be used with the 27mm hose instead of the 36mm hose. The 27m hose provides enough suction for effective dust control and is easier to use with sanders because it is lighter and more flexible. That's Festools' attention to detail.
http://www.industrialvacs.com/Tool_Socket_connects_suction_hose_to_power_tool_p/h302000535.htm
The sanders are meant to be used with the 27mm hose instead of the 36mm hose. The 27m hose provides enough suction for effective dust control and is easier to use with sanders because it is lighter and more flexible. That's Festools' attention to detail.
Just a little puzzling. I realize the 36 mm hose is overkill for the sander (and I suppose may even cause some suction problems) but, for other tools it seems to be a better match. Why won't the non-anti-static hose fit though? I think that is 27 mm. It is a Festool product.
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The 36 mm hose will not work/fit on the sanders (except the Planex that has a special hose and CT). Festool knows this and address the issue by suppling the 27 mm hose with all the CT's except the 36 AC which is "designed" for the Planex. No oversight on Festools part.
The new 32 mm to 27 mm tapered hose works with the sanders.
Tom
The new 32 mm to 27 mm tapered hose works with the sanders.
Tom
Unfortunately that doesn't help me much and that isn't information which is out there and available. At least it isn't to those of us just acquiring Festool equipment. I did manage to another rubber adapter I had which was a leftover from another dust port fitting attempt. After sanding the inside of one of its openings on my spindle sander I was able to get it just fit the 125. The other fit on the 36 mm hose end. Since it was rubber it was flexible enough was almost like it was made to fit. I have a CT48 and dialed about halfway down it worked great. For now, I thin I'll just use that adapter instead of buying another expensive hose. I still don't understand why the non-anti-static Festool hose doesn't fit. It has to be 27 mm. One of the things I like about Festool besides the quality and great dust collection was the "close system" idea where everything fit, but apparently they are no better than others in this area; meaning you have to have more than one hose or fitting to use multiple tools with the same vac. A little frustrating given that's a big problem across the entire woodworking tool manufacturing spectrum.
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When you bought a Festool CT vac, what hose did it come with? I was under the impression they were delivered with a 27mm hose unless otherwise requested. All tools work with the 27mm hose, but not all work with the 36mm hose as you are discovering!
If you switched it, the dealer should have mentioned to you that a 36mm hose is unsuitable for sanders. The domino also requires a 27mm hose. This is pretty common knowledge, in the same way that the routers and TS saws are better used with larger hoses and the small tools' plug-it cables are not useable with the larger tools. It also states quite clearly on the Festool website spec page that the dust port on the ETS 125 is 27mm.
There is a reducing nozzle from 36 to 27mm available from Festool but it is NAINA. I have one but when I use my ETS 125 I always use the 27mm hose anyway. The sander is just too light for the heavier hose.
As to why the non anti-static hose is not working, that seems strange. It should work if the end is indeed 27mm. Here is a link to the ant-static hose page on Festool USA. (By the way, the pictures on the Festool website for the anti-static hoses are all identical and show a 36mm nozzle.)
http://www.festoolusa.com/power-tool-accessories/hepa-dust-extractors/non-antistatic-hoses/
Hope this helps.
If you switched it, the dealer should have mentioned to you that a 36mm hose is unsuitable for sanders. The domino also requires a 27mm hose. This is pretty common knowledge, in the same way that the routers and TS saws are better used with larger hoses and the small tools' plug-it cables are not useable with the larger tools. It also states quite clearly on the Festool website spec page that the dust port on the ETS 125 is 27mm.
There is a reducing nozzle from 36 to 27mm available from Festool but it is NAINA. I have one but when I use my ETS 125 I always use the 27mm hose anyway. The sander is just too light for the heavier hose.
As to why the non anti-static hose is not working, that seems strange. It should work if the end is indeed 27mm. Here is a link to the ant-static hose page on Festool USA. (By the way, the pictures on the Festool website for the anti-static hoses are all identical and show a 36mm nozzle.)
http://www.festoolusa.com/power-tool-accessories/hepa-dust-extractors/non-antistatic-hoses/
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Like others have said, your CT should have come standard with a 27mm hose. Unless you have the CT 36 AutoClean for the Planex, which comes with a black 36mm hose with a special flange on the tool end connector.
When you say the hose doesn't fit, are you saying it's too big or too small? "Doesn't fit" leads me to believe that you mean it's too small. If so, that's normal. You just need to push it on there. It does require a little force, but it's a friction fitting. So it needs to be snug.
Shane
When you say the hose doesn't fit, are you saying it's too big or too small? "Doesn't fit" leads me to believe that you mean it's too small. If so, that's normal. You just need to push it on there. It does require a little force, but it's a friction fitting. So it needs to be snug.
Shane
There is a reducing nozzle from 36 to 27mm available from Festool but it is NAINA. I have one but when I use my ETS 125 I always use the 27mm hose anyway. The sander is just too light for the heavier hose.
The adapter is available in the US:
http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/60/products_id/17990
The adapter is available in the US:
http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/60/products_id/17990
I decided to go with the larger hose for better suction. It may not have been necessary but the non-anti-static 27 mm did not do as good a job on getting the dust from the saw. I don't regret that. I will try the non-anti- static again but I've pushed and done about everything I can do to get it on there. My adapter works OK and I will try that for awhile. I suppose that means that the OF 1400 is going to have the same problem. I don't have this problem with the TS55. Haven't yet tried the Domino 500, but that looks small also.
There should be some warnings. Those of us who never owned Festools before have no idea and we're told up front that they have made all their tools to work together. That's one of the selling points. Guess that's only partially true. It's not that big a deal, just didn't expect it from them.
There should be some warnings. Those of us who never owned Festools before have no idea and we're told up front that they have made all their tools to work together. That's one of the selling points. Guess that's only partially true. It's not that big a deal, just didn't expect it from them.
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Michael Garrett said:
Michael, that's an aftermarket product although it does the same thing. The Festool adapter I was referring to was this one.
http://www.powertool-supplies.co.uk/festool-reducing-sleeve-rm-d36-27-as.html
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As Seth said, a picture of your hose and connector will help. I wonder if some how you ended up with the 22 mm AS hose for the hand sanders???
The hose that comes with the CT is conductive, not anti-static.
They all do work together. The 27 mm hose works on all of the tools.
I would never want to use any of the sanders except the Planex with a 36 mm hose.
Tom
The hose that comes with the CT is conductive, not anti-static.
They all do work together. The 27 mm hose works on all of the tools.
I would never want to use any of the sanders except the Planex with a 36 mm hose.
Tom
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grbmds said:
Who is "them"? I think you need to bring it up with them, as they didn't tell you everything you should have been told.
I use my 27mm hose on most of my tools and all of my sanders... It was a little tight at the beginning but fits easily and quickly now.
Hope you get it squared away...
Cheers. Bryan.
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I know of no list.
If you go to the Festool website, choose a tool, click on specifications, in the list is the dust extraction port size. The ETS 125 clearly shows it is 27 mm. If you choose the Kapex, the click specifications it shows 27/36 mm.
Tom
If you go to the Festool website, choose a tool, click on specifications, in the list is the dust extraction port size. The ETS 125 clearly shows it is 27 mm. If you choose the Kapex, the click specifications it shows 27/36 mm.
Tom
Shane Holland said:
I switched the hose out for the 36 mm hose and paid the difference at Woodcraft. From an efficiency standpoint, I think the larger hose seems to work better for the saw in terms of dust collection for me at least.
It is too small, but I have tried to force it on the port on the sander and the Domino (which I just got). It really won't go on. The hose I have which I have been using on my Fein vac is silver with a white connection for the vac end and what looks like a 27 mm connection on the tool side. It works just fine on the TS55REQ, but so far I cannot get it on the sander. I will try again tonight and will provide the part number on the smaller hose. I have seen a Festool "adapter" which gradually goes from what looks like 36 mm to a smaller size (could be 27 mm) but the labeling on the box in the store I was at didn't really show what it would be used for. I've seen it in the catalog but can't find it online. That might be the answer.
