ETS 125 Dust Port & Festool 36 mm hose fitting

[gnlman]

Hi. I like to 36mm hose as well. I made a whip about 18 inches to use with sanders ect, but prefer the 36 on my mft for dust collection.
I just ordered a couple of these, have not rec'd them yet but sounds like it will solve your issues.
have a look....

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281170529852?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Greg

 

[grbmds]

I've just talked with tech support at Festool and got the same answer. The silve non-anti-static hose should be 27 mm and should work with the ETS125 and Domino. Therefore, it must just be me going through a weak period in my life where I don't have the strength to force it on the 125. I will try tonight. My only other concern would be, should I be using a non-anti-static hose for sanding. I know it doesn't matter for some things like vacuuming the floor or workbench, but would sustained use with a sander cause a build-up of static electricity?

 

[Carl Prentiss]

Hi. I like to 36mm hose as well. I made a whip about 18 inches to use with sanders ect, but prefer the 36 on my mft for dust collection.
I just ordered a couple of these, have not rec'd them yet but sounds like it will solve your issues.
have a look....

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281170529852?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Greg

I bought one of those last year and it has worked quite well as I have my 36mm hose mounted on a boom arm. Before that I used the 18" whip. That, I didn't care for as it would leave the Plug it cord ALWAYS 18" too long or too short.

 

[gnlman]

Hi. That is good to hear it worked well. I discovered them after reading the list created by Seth on aftermarket items for Festool.
I have a similar setup. My mft does not move, and I have a homemade boomarm (central vac pipe and fittings) mounted on the wall behind my table that swivels. I have the same issue with the whip as you, no matter what I do, the extra loop that is tied back when not using the whip seems to get caught on something....lol

I only had one Festool sander up til Saturday (Ro90) and using it with the 36mm hose seemed fine to me....I will have to see how my new sanders (ets 125, dts 400 and rs2e) are like to use with the larger hose...not sure how well the smaller ones will like the bigger hose....oh well it's great to have options!!

I've thought about just making an extension for the plug it cord perhaps a little longer than the 18 inch hose whip but not sure if the plug it parts are available as I'd need both ends.....
If the parts were available I think I would add that to my options.....anybody know if you can buy theses parts in Canada?

grbmds:

I also have the non anti static hoses as well....use them with my shop vac and Dust Deputy in the larger area of my shop where I cut up plywood. I do find a bit of static at times when using my ts55, but it also seems to be dependent on humidity at the time....I have electric heat in my shop so it can get pretty dry at times.
I didn't have a extractor when I first started using my saw, so didn't see the point of buying the anti static hose at the time...I have a extractor coming now, and like you have opted for the larger hose....good luck, you'll get it all solved and the people here are of great help....
Greg.

 

[grbmds]

gnlman:

The ETS125 sander worked fine with the 36mm hose.  I dialed the vac down to about half. There was a little bit of chattering, but I think if I just dialed it down a tiny bit more it would have been fine. The sanding results were great. No noticeable dust, but I also have a ceiling mounted air cleaner. I sanded out the inside of another rubber adapter I had to fit the 125 port. It was from one of those stepped adapters. Fortunately the next step up fit inside the 36 mm hose just right; both sides now a tight fit. I may just buy another one or two of those and cut and sand till I get it right. They are cheaper.

Thanks for the assistance though. Part of my problem was that I had a TS 75 for awhile during the recall and that was the reason I bought the 36 mm hose. No one ever told me it would be so difficult to get connected to the smaller tools like the Domino, sanders, and routers. In fact I'm not sure I even thought to ask because I thought everything just fit.

 

[gnlman]

Hi. That's good to know the sander is manageable with the 36 mm hose....no surprise the dust collection is fine, just have heard others mention the 27 mm hose for sanding is a little easier to move about.
My apologies I somehow missed you had the non anti static hose......the adapter I mentioned is suppose to be compatible with the anti static hose or conductive for lack of better words...now that I'm finally getting a Festool extractor I can take advantage of the green hoses and save a bit of my arm hair...lol

If the step adapter works, and you are not using the green hose sounds like you've solved your problem.....to be honest Festool at least has some standards with their extractors and hoses so the actually fit each other.....unlike all the other stuff out there.....hence the multiple zip lock plumbing couplings in my 2.5 inch collection system.....lol
happy sanding, can't wait to give those new sanders a try just have to be home long enough to make it happen......not a luxury I have these days..
take care and keep posting,
Greg

 

[gnlman]

One more thing....the adapter you saw in the store but it didn't say what it was for.....I had the same issue as you when I bought my first sander.....I picked one of those adapters up thinking it would solve my issue (that is if we are talking the same one....it's hard plastic and somewhat bell shaped..)..turns out it is for attaching a 27mm hose to a 36 mm hose.......that's a long hose....lol....then again when up on a ladder on the outside of a house sanding siding it's great to be able to start off with the 36mm and attach the 27 mm.......having said that, the adapter fits perfectly on my Kreg K4 dust port and allows me to attach my 36 mm hose from my boom arm to my Kreg jig......

I guess what most people will tell you is once you get involved in this stuff you end up with a box of assorted adapters couplings, plumbing couplings..heck I've even used old pill bottles....to cobble up to some tools ect.....once you succumb to the fact there are very little standards with a lot of tool companies...you"ll be happy you have a box of all these things so when you come up against a dust collection issue you have enough stuff to make it work....lol

Also since you are using non anti static, you might look at Bosch hoses...I have a 36mm bosch hose...i think they call it 35mm....I use it on my cutting table and it works just fine...bought it from amazon and i think it was 30-40  bucks.....not sure but they might sell a 27mm hose, you'd have to check but for little money you'd have the other size hose.....I think if it were me though I'd get the anti static Festool hose for sanding as you have the extractor and can take advantage of not getting zapped....lol

Greg.

 

[grbmds]

One more thing....the adapter you saw in the store but it didn't say what it was for.....I had the same issue as you when I bought my first sander.....I picked one of those adapters up thinking it would solve my issue (that is if we are talking the same one....it's hard plastic and somewhat bell shaped..)..turns out it is for attaching a 27mm hose to a 36 mm hose.......that's a long hose....lol....then again when up on a ladder on the outside of a house sanding siding it's great to be able to start off with the 36mm and attach the 27 mm.......having said that, the adapter fits perfectly on my Kreg K4 dust port and allows me to attach my 36 mm hose from my boom arm to my Kreg jig......

I guess what most people will tell you is once you get involved in this stuff you end up with a box of assorted adapters couplings, plumbing couplings..heck I've even used old pill bottles....to cobble up to some tools ect.....once you succumb to the fact there are very little standards with a lot of tool companies...you"ll be happy you have a box of all these things so when you come up against a dust collection issue you have enough stuff to make it work....lol

Also since you are using non anti static, you might look at Bosch hoses...I have a 36mm bosch hose...i think they call it 35mm....I use it on my cutting table and it works just fine...bought it from amazon and i think it was 30-40  bucks.....not sure but they might sell a 27mm hose, you'd have to check but for little money you'd have the other size hose.....I think if it were me though I'd get the anti static Festool hose for sanding as you have the extractor and can take advantage of not getting zapped....lol

Greg.

Greg,

I do have more than a box of connectors and adapters, most of which do not work for any of my tools. That's really the only reason I found something that worked in this case (with a little adjustment). It actually works well and I can still use my 36 mm hose. I suppose, over time, I will end up getting the 27 mm anti-static hose, because I have 3 Festools that require that connection now. I really didn't expect to run into the dust port size problem with Festool though.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Randy

 

[grbmds]

Hi. I like to 36mm hose as well. I made a whip about 18 inches to use with sanders ect, but prefer the 36 on my mft for dust collection.
I just ordered a couple of these, have not rec'd them yet but sounds like it will solve your issues.
have a look....

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281170529852?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Greg

I bought one of those last year and it has worked quite well as I have my 36mm hose mounted on a boom arm. Before that I used the 18" whip. That, I didn't care for as it would leave the Plug it cord ALWAYS 18" too long or too short.

Does the referenced adapter fit inside the 36 mm coupling? (The picture looks too small to fit over the 36 mm coupling.) I assume the other end just fits over the dust ports on tools made for the 27 mm  hose.

 

[Sparktrician]

The adapter is available in the US:
http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/60/products_id/17990

I made one of these whips and use it regularly, but I add a single 1-1/4" copper pipe connector between the 36mm end connector and the 27mm end connector to tighten the connection and keep them from slipping apart. 

 

[Carl Prentiss]

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Does the referenced adapter fit inside the 36 mm coupling? (The picture looks too small to fit over the 36 mm coupling.) I assume the other end just fits over the dust ports on tools made for the 27 mm  hose.
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Yes

 

[semenza]

Hi. I like to 36mm hose as well. I made a whip about 18 inches to use with sanders ect, but prefer the 36 on my mft for dust collection.
I just ordered a couple of these, have not rec'd them yet but sounds like it will solve your issues.
have a look....

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281170529852?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Greg

I bought one of those last year and it has worked quite well as I have my 36mm hose mounted on a boom arm. Before that I used the 18" whip. That, I didn't care for as it would leave the Plug it cord ALWAYS 18" too long or too short.

Does the referenced adapter fit inside the 36 mm coupling? (The picture looks too small to fit over the 36 mm coupling.) I assume the other end just fits over the dust ports on tools made for the 27 mm  hose.

Yes, one end of that adapter fits inside the D36 tool end connector  (not sure if it fits the AC hose) and the other end is  the same as a regular D27 connector. It fits on the tools with a mating D27 sized port. I have that adapter it fits wells and works well. I think the biggest drawback will be  having the size, weight and lower flexibility of the D36 hose when using a smaller finish sander. But the adapter is certainly a useful item to have.

Seth

 

[grbmds]

Thanks Seth.  Having only used the sander with the 36 mm hose only for one sanding I agree it's a little in flexible. However, in my workshop I have the boom arm installed and mainly use the sander there. I guess if the static isn't a problem with 27 mm non anti static hose I have then I could just switch hoses and not use the boom arm for sanding but the arm does help keep the hose and cord out of the way. I do appreciate the solutuons to my problem as it gives me options. I did get 27 mm hose I have over the dust port. I just didn't want to force it as much as it needed. So that option is also available even though it is not an anti-static hose.

 

[semenza]

Thanks Seth.  Having only used the sander with the 36 mm hose only for one sanding I agree it's a little in flexible. However, in my workshop I have the boom arm installed and mainly use the sander there. I guess if the static isn't a problem with 27 mm non anti static hose I have then I could just switch hoses and not use the boom arm for sanding but the arm does help keep the hose and cord out of the way. I do appreciate the solutuons to my problem as it gives me options. I did get 27 mm hose I have over the dust port. I just didn't want to force it as much as it needed. So that option is also available even though it is not an anti-static hose.

That D27 will get easier to connect over time as the rubber will soften a bit with use. I would say that the static isn't a problem if you are not getting zapped by the hose.  Just depends on your ZTL (Zap Tolerance Level).  ;D

Seth

 

[grbmds]

Thanks to everyone who responded, especially Seth. I got the after market adapter and it works heat from the 36 mm hose to any connection which handles a 27 mm hose end. Plus I was able to use the 27 mm non-antistatic hose with the ETS125 sander also. Now I have 2 options. I have left the adapter on the 36 mm hose which is on my CT48 with the boom arm and it all works great. Meant to thank sooner but just slipped my mind.

 

[timbrosnan]

This is nothing short of outrageous. I bought am ETS125 sander and I would like to buy the hose that fits on it.  Why is that so complicated?  All these posts about adapters and people making inserts is absolutely ridiculous.  I'm tempted NOT to buy another Festool product until this question is answered in a simple way.  If there is no Festool hose that fits on the ETS125, be honest, and say so.

 

[ChuckM]

Let's admit it. If Festool could envision all user needs, we wouldn't have third-party companies in existence like TSO, Fastcap, Seneca, etc. Not making available an adapter so one can use the 36 with other sanders is lost sales. However, it shouldn't be too difficult to fabricate some step-down hose to solve the problem. I use the 36mm hose for my Kapex, DF and sander.

 

[grbmds]

This is nothing short of outrageous. I bought am ETS125 sander and I would like to buy the hose that fits on it.  Why is that so complicated?  All these posts about adapters and people making inserts is absolutely ridiculous.  I'm tempted NOT to buy another Festool product until this question is answered in a simple way.  If there is no Festool hose that fits on the ETS125, be honest, and say so.

Just so you know . . . This is a 6-year old post/question from when I bought my first couple of Festools. As for the hose and fitting on the sander, at the time I was using the 36mm hose for my Festool sanders and saws. However, I found that that really isn't necessary with sanders and, in fact, makes it more difficult to use the ETS125 because the 36mm hose is heavier and tends to tip the sander, thus making it grab the surface. The 27 mm hose is what is used on most tools and fits perfectly on the ETS125, all other sanders, Dominos, TS55 and TS75 saws (although they will also work with the 36mm hose without an adapter), and the routers. So, this really isn't a problem. There is nothing better than dust collection on Festool tools, especially with Festool vacs. The only tools for which the 36mm hose is probably a must is the TS75 (although it will also work OK with the 27mm), the Kapex (not my experience just feedback on the FOG). It might help on the routers, but certainly isn't necessary. Anyway, it seems as if more is being made of my very old question than is intended.

 

[Cheese]

This is nothing short of outrageous. I bought am ETS125 sander and I would like to buy the hose that fits on it.  Why is that so complicated?  All these posts about adapters and people making inserts is absolutely ridiculous.  I'm tempted NOT to buy another Festool product until this question is answered in a simple way.  If there is no Festool hose that fits on the ETS125, be honest, and say so.

This is not complicated. Just attach the standard hose from a Festool vac to the tool. Everything works well.
I use the 36 mm hose with the Kapex, all others get the 27 mm treatment. That includes track saws, routers and planers.

Let’s just keep it simple.

 

[grbmds]

My original question/post was over 6 years ago, before I really had any experience with Festool dust collection and I felt that, if I used the 36mm hose, it would get even more of the dust. Oviously that isn't true. Blame my inexperience with the tools for the original post. Sometimes it's hard to see your own posts from that long ago based on Festool novice questions you had. The 27 mm hose collects all the possible dust on almost everything except maybe the TS75 and the Kapex.