Festool 2016 Price Increase - Coming April 1st - Order Now to Save!

Tyler, the PS/PSB 300 Trion Jigsaws both are being reduced by $25. Those are the only items going down in price. While I think some folks quickly go for the Carvex, the Trion is still a great viable tool for most people.

Otherwise, prices stayed the same or went up.
 
Shane Holland said:
Tyler, the PS/PSB 300 Trion Jigsaws both are being reduced by $25. Those are the only items going down in price. While I think some folks quickly go for the Carvex, the Trion is still a great viable tool for most people.

Otherwise, prices stayed the same or went up.

Thanks Shane
 
Rollin22Petes said:
I was going through the list and noticed some things not listed at all such as drills and the OF2200. Are there prices staying the same as last year?

2200 was the same thing I immediately searched for.
 
I am looking at Sys combo, Vac Clamp, HKC none of which will have process increases  this year. Oh and maybe I also want a pony.
 
bkharman said:
Staniam said:
copcarcollector said:
Staniam said:
Why is there yet another increase? Doesn't seem that long ago that there was another increase.

Every April 1 for the last 2-3 years that I know of (N America anyhow--)

Obviously I could be wrong but wasnt the last one last year? Or wait, maybe it was two years ago.

Still though, why? Technology isn't changing, but, I guess if you can and customers will still pay then might as well.

Have you seen our prices compared to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and others?  Overall, we have it pretty good... Believe it or not!

Cheers. Bryan.

We down under dream of your prices. A Domino DF500 with the domino systainer is currently on special for damn near $1800. The AUD buys 75c USD at the moment. Must be the Kool aid.
 
Grakat said:
bkharman said:
Staniam said:
copcarcollector said:
Staniam said:
Why is there yet another increase? Doesn't seem that long ago that there was another increase.

Every April 1 for the last 2-3 years that I know of (N America anyhow--)

Obviously I could be wrong but wasnt the last one last year? Or wait, maybe it was two years ago.

Still though, why? Technology isn't changing, but, I guess if you can and customers will still pay then might as well.

Have you seen our prices compared to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and others?  Overall, we have it pretty good... Believe it or not!

Cheers. Bryan.

We down under dream of your prices. A Domino DF500 with the domino systainer is currently on special for darn near $1800. The AUD buys 75c USD at the moment. Must be the Kool aid.

Ouch. By my rough calculations that's roughly 40% more than we pay in the UK!
 
Staniam said:
Why is there yet another increase? Doesn't seem that long ago that there was another increase.

In the almost ten years that I've been into Festool they have increased the price every year but one, and that was in 2009 after the economy tanked.  It's getting hard to afford these tools. 
 
I have to agree with [member=1146]Brice Burrell[/member].

My income over the past 10 years certainly has not kept price with Festool's price increases.

I could not afford to replace many of tools that I purchased five years or more ago.

Once of the biggest knocks that I constantly hear about the Festool brand is that it's overpriced for what it is.

I'm a big believer in the old adage that you get what you pay for but I'm starting to doubt it in this case.

I still love my Festools and respect the quality and engineering involved.

They've just gotten more expensive than I can afford as a tradesman.
 
The unfortunate part of the equation is the the dollar is nearly one-for-one with Euro making price increases even more unpalatable. Furthermore some of the increases are down right ridiculous on the power tools even though they are only 1-2% as the dollar amount works out to $25 or more.
 
We all have a point at which we say enough. It's different for everyone. As for me, I was close on the last increase but still used the increase to justify buying the RO150.  Now I think Festool has lost me as a customer although i'm sure they wont miss me.
 
JimH2 said:
The unfortunate part of the equation is the the dollar is nearly one-for-one with Euro making price increases even more unpalatable.

Jim - I think that's the key point.  The two variable should be price movement vs. competitors and alternative brands and the Foreign Exchange on EURUSD.  The first doesn't seem to be moving at all (sure you can make the quality distinction but I don't see too many across the board price increases on many tool brands) and the exchange rate should be working in our favor as U.S. customers.

Obviously, that's Festool's decision on how to run their business but I think eventually it'll price the new brand entrant out of the market pretty quickly.  I bought a bunch of tools very quickly a few years back where, as a hobbyist, I eventually was able to justify the price premium.  However, had the new prices been in place when I started, I don't think I would have bought certain tools where there's a reasonable alternative (Kapex, CMS, drills, sanders...)

I guess we will all find to sales when we Kool-Aid drinkers have all the tools we need and they will have to attract new customers to the market.
 
All, I amended our price list with products that have no price increase. Hope that helps.
 
I have to agree with the "what the market will bear" theory. I don't think this has anything to do with exchange rates or business costs ( remember transportation fuel costs are at their lowest prices in years). Festool will continue to raise prices until sales begin to drop off. It's as simple as that. Apparently, the demand is so strong they feel they can get away with the increases. When sales figures start to drop off, I can guarantee they will back off on their pricing. Currently, they are just riding the wave and getting away with it.

I'm personally surprised at the increase on the Kapex.  With all the problems reported, I'm surprised sales are still strong enough to attempt an increase.  Apparently many more perspective buyers are watching YouTube videos about how great the saw is and not reading about all the problems posted on the FOG...

 
Steve-Rice said:
I have to agree with the "what the market will bear" theory. I don't think this has anything to do with exchange rates or business costs ( remember transportation fuel costs are at their lowest prices in years). Festool will continue to raise prices until sales begin to drop off. It's as simple as that. Apparently, the demand is so strong they feel they can get away with the increases. When sales figures start to drop off, I can guarantee they will back off on their pricing. Currently, they are just riding the wave and getting away with it.

I'm personally surprised at the increase on the Kapex.  With all the problems reported, I'm surprised sales are still strong enough to attempt an increase.  Apparently many more perspective buyers are watching YouTube videos about how great the saw is and not reading about all the problems posted on the FOG...

How could you, or any of us on this forum possible know the actual number of "defective" Kapex units compared to perfectly good units? Just because there have been threads recently doesn't mean it isn't possible those cases represent a miniscule percentage. For all we know the Kapex could have a 99.5% "works perfectly" rate.
 
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Where is the "what he said" emoticon? That's better!

Staniam said:
How could you, or any of us on this forum possible know the actual number of "defective" Kapex units compared to perfectly good units? Just because there have been threads recently doesn't mean it isn't possible those cases represent a miniscule percentage. For all we know the Kapex could have a 99.5% "works perfectly" rate.
 

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Maybe Festool is estimating a raise in the cost of some material like copper that would affect their manufacturing costs. 

Also, there seemed to be a large rise in the price of the drill chucks, which are likely manufactured for Festool by another company like Rohm or Metabo. A rise in the cost of some subcontracted parts could also wind up causing the difference.

Does anyone know if there will be a rise in the price of the Fastfix 769065 KC all metal chuck? I didn't see it on either list.
 
[member=41633]Staniam[/member], You have an excellent point and I honestly hope you are correct in that only a small percentage of Kapex saws have problems.  That's certainly what I would like to believe.

Thanks for the posting.
 
Staniam said:
How could you, or any of us on this forum possible know the actual number of "defective" Kapex units compared to perfectly good units? Just because there have been threads recently doesn't mean it isn't possible those cases represent a miniscule percentage. For all we know the Kapex could have a 99.5% "works perfectly" rate.

Festool maintains that there is nothing wrong with the Kapex and that very few come in for repair.  There is no shortage of members reporting problems here and far too many of them have had their saw's fail more than once in just a few years.  Plus, there have been numerous reports of people sending their saws in for warranty work, unrelated to the motor, and yet the motor was replaced.  Seems odd for Festool to go to the trouble and expense to replace a working motor.  Also, the Kapex motor issue isn't a new thing, you'll find threads like this going back for years.

I do agree we can't know how many saws fail, and I'm willing to believe the number is fairly small.  Still, the super high price tag makes for very high expectations.  Festool has to live up to those expectations.
 
Brice Burrell said:
Staniam said:
How could you, or any of us on this forum possible know the actual number of "defective" Kapex units compared to perfectly good units? Just because there have been threads recently doesn't mean it isn't possible those cases represent a miniscule percentage. For all we know the Kapex could have a 99.5% "works perfectly" rate.

Festool maintains that there is nothing wrong with the Kapex and that very few come in for repair.  There is no shortage of members reporting problems here and far too many of them have had their saw's fail more than once in just a few years.  Plus, there have been numerous reports of people sending their saws in for warranty work, unrelated to the motor, and yet the motor was replaced.  Seems odd for Festool to go to the trouble and expense to replace a working motor.  Also, the Kapex motor issue isn't a new thing, you'll find threads like this going back for years.

I do agree we can't know how many saws fail, and I'm willing to believe the number is fairly small.  Still, the super high price tag makes for very high expectations.  Festool has to live up to those expectations.

Yeah, I expected better when I ordered a Kapex. But mine arrived with a warped fence so I returned it for a refund and am left with the unused and, now, unneeded accessories that will not sell in the used marketplace. So I have lost confidence with Festool's quality control and have had it with their high prices. This bad Kapex purchase has proved to be the last straw for me, and I will not be purchasing any of the Festool items that I otherwise would have purchased -- and I had a list... I'm sure Festool will survive without me. And I'll be able to do my wood working just fine with tooling other than Festools.

Does it sound like I'm a little unhappy with Festool? Well, yes, I am. I expected much better for my money.
 
A reminder that we're about 3 weeks out from the price increase now. You can easily search and sort through the Festool 2016 price increases on our website at festoolproducts.com. Also, product pages show the increase amounts for your convenience, where applicable.

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