festool clone?

[stefano]

Hi to everyone in the group.

What do you think about this very similar festool ets ec 150/5?
link to the page

It's just an half price clone or it can be a good deal?

Thanks for any help.

 

[woodferret]

The lack of an option for pad hardness should be a sign that it's not serious.

 

[Packard]

It appears that Car Repair Online Products is located somewhere in the Netherlands. They seem to get good reviews, but lately there are AI vendors who will generate reviews for a fee. 

The USA just created a law against made up reviews.  But since these are all done on the computer, I doubt that the law will have much bite. 

I googled Car Repair Online Products.  Be wary of any site that says they are reliable if there are no other vendors listed on that site.  Some vendors have been setting up reliability rating sites that rate their own products only.  So not a reliable source of information.

This is my searchNonpaints.com appears to own CROP)
https://www.google.com/search?q=nonpaints.com review&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m

 

[stefano]

It appears that Car Repair Online Products is located somewhere in the Netherlands. They seem to get good reviews, but lately there are AI vendors who will generate reviews for a fee. 

The USA just created a law against made up reviews.  But since these are all done on the computer, I doubt that the law will have much bite. 

I googled Car Repair Online Products.  Be wary of any site that says they are reliable if there are no other vendors listed on that site.  Some vendors have been setting up reliability rating sites that rate their own products only.  So not a reliable source of information.

This is my searchNonpaints.com appears to own CROP)
https://www.google.com/search?q=nonpaints.com review&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m

so it seems to be a good think, am I right?

 

[stefano]

The lack of an option for pad hardness should be a sign that it's not serious.

would you pay for it or not?

 

[woodferret]

would you pay for it or not?

No I would not.  Compare it to a ETS 150/5 (not EC).  That's what it really is.

 

[stefano]

would you pay for it or not?

No I would not.  Compare it to a ETS 150/5 (not EC).  That's what it really is.

what you mean...I don't understand your point neither in this post nor the fist one you did

 

[waho6o9]

"It's just an half price clone or it can be a good deal?"

It's a roll of the dice, maybe it's just half as good as Festool.  Generally speaking you get what you pay for. 

How's the back up support? Do they offer a 30 try and return policy? Are parts readily available? Is there a Systainer to
protect your purchase?

Good luck on your decision. 

All the Best

Their add states  "100 days return and exchange"

 

[mino]

Hi to everyone in the group.

What do you think about this very similar festool ets ec 150/5?
link to the page

It's just an half price clone or it can be a good deal?

Thanks for any help.

At that price it is a pretty good deal for the shop ... hence why they carry it.

Check Peter Millard reviews of cheapo Mirka sander clones from Aliexpress. Those were at least cheap. At this price you are going way into the scam area as far as cost/value go. With most of your money staying with the eshop selling it ...

Yes, a reputable brand can make a reasonably good sander for that price. Is this a reputable brand (at least in china) ? No. Case closed.

 

[six-point socket II]

https://www.menzer-tools.com/en/products/random-orbital-sanders/menzer-ets-150-5-0

Actually brushless, and comes with a SYS3 …
https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleic...cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_term=4575823828803538

Might be a better option if you’re looking into alternatives.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Packard]

The dealer distributes mainly (based on their other products and the company name) for automobile repair.  I would imagine that it is built as an alternative to a pneumatic sander for small shops.

So keep that in mind when making your decision.  Is it really designed for woodworkers?

Would you use a Festool sander for auto body repair work?

 

[six-point socket II]

(…)

Would you use a Festool sander for auto body repair work?

Yes, absolutely. ->https://www.festool.co.uk/company/segments/automotive

To this day they also carry a line of air/ pneumatic tools. ->https://www.festool.co.uk/search-results?keyword=Compressed air

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Cheese]

Would you use a Festool sander for auto body repair work?

Absolutely, I would...that's what the ETS EC 125/150 sander was designed for.

[attachimg=1]

 

[woodferret]

would you pay for it or not?

No I would not.  Compare it to a ETS 150/5 (not EC).  That's what it really is.

what you mean...I don't understand your point neither in this post nor the fist one you did

Without the hard pad, you can't do flat surfaces without risk of rounding over or gouging.  My bad on comparing it to the ETS 150/5 as you can get a hard pad with it.  My mind was stuck on the ETS 125s which don't carry such things.  Any way, if you're just doing contour automotive stuff and doing hand block sanding for flats, then go right ahead - this sander can work.  If you're doing woodworking with flat panels, then no.

 

[leakyroof]

Would you use a Festool sander for auto body repair work?

Absolutely, I would...that's what the ETS EC 125/150 sander was designed for.

[attachimg=1]

YES!!!!! It killed with paint/body repairs on our ‘84 Vanagon. First time I enjoyed Body work and didn’t end up coated in sanding dust on a vehicle…  [cool] [cool] [cool]

 

[Cheese]

YES!!!!! It killed with paint/body repairs on our ‘84 Vanagon. First time I enjoyed Body work and didn’t end up coated in sanding dust on a vehicle…  [cool] [cool] [cool]

I'm another convert for dustless automotive sanding.  [smile]  My nostrils are still plugged up with sanding dust from sanding automobiles years ago with air driven sanders that had zero dust control. Once the car was sanded, the car was moved outside to be blown down with compressed air while the sanding area was washed down with water.  We then flushed all of that dust/dirt back into the water/sewer system hoping that the nasty parts of the equation would miraculously be captured by a filtration system that we knew nothing about while still hoping an active filtration system actually existed.  [eek]  Ignorance is bliss.

Does this look familiar?

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]

 

[stefano]

https://www.menzer-tools.com/en/products/random-orbital-sanders/menzer-ets-150-5-0

Actually brushless, and comes with a SYS3 …
https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleic...cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_term=4575823828803538

Might be a better option if you’re looking into alternatives.

Kind regards,
Oliver

Thank you so much Oliver for your help I think I'll get one of those.
Bye

 

[Mini Me]

In Australia the smash repair industry is a large portion of Festool's market and the retail hobbyist is cream on the cake.

 

[Packard]

In Australia the smash repair industry is a large portion of Festool's market and the retail hobbyist is cream on the cake.

Interesting.  I thought it was almost exclusively for woodworkers and carpenters, etc.

 

[derekcohen]

In Australia the smash repair industry is a large portion of Festool's market and the retail hobbyist is cream on the cake.

Interesting.  I thought it was almost exclusively for woodworkers and carpenters, etc.

I first came across Festool sanders when it was Festo, and this was in the workshop of a buddy of mine who built fibreglass windsurfers for the World Cup. He maintained that they were the only ones to use.

Regards from Perth

Derek