FESTOOL CMS on Ebay ALMOST 3000??????????????

[Zacharytanner]

Guys,
Enlighten me about the CMS Table Saw. I LOVE Festool but would never give up my table saw let alone pay 3k for a table that uses a TS55 but is not included. What do they cost in Europe? I know it's NAIAA so is that why it is going so high?

Thanks,
Frank

 

[VictorL]

It's expensive in Europe too. It won't be ever  available in NA, so it's "collectable" item.  Not sure why router table can be approved by UL, but once it will be available here, price won't be so high anymore.

 

[Theshipstore]

But Really selling for 3000.00 and without the saw or slide, The slide was listed separately earlier...Just don't get it myself

Sal

 

[mouppe]

It's a ridiculous price. I think a new CMS table with TS55 saw and sliding table extension is about $1600. You could fly to England and buy one for less.

At this rate, I'll stick my CMS router module and MFT table on Ebay!

 

[agehall]

If you look at http://www.festool.de/Produkte/Seiten/Produktvergleich.aspx?foc=ol_cms_grundeinheit_set_3682 you will see that a kit with a TS55 is about €1200.

Next time I go to the US, I think I'll try to bring a few over and ebay them. I almost always go from europe with empty bags and return with all of them full, so I have space on the way over..

 

[nydesign]

Maybe the selling price will motivate festool to offer them here (the states)  [wink]

 

[Bill Chang]

Maybe the selling price will motivate festool to offer them here (the states)  [wink]

Bingo.

Time for a trip across the pond.  Just saying.  [tongue]

 

[AlexThePalex]

[eek] Wow, I think I'm gonna buy some used CMS tables here, put them on ebay USA and ship them to the States. This looks like a golden business......

That set that he sold cost about €1380 new here. Same stuff can be bought used for  €600-700. $2950 is absurd. But I guess it's the rarity that does it.

 

[Wim]

When I bring my stuff over from Holland to the USA, one of the items will be a CMS-table with a TS55 insert. To be sure I will get it, I will have to ask for an armoured car and police escort. And when I die before my wife, she can live in wealth when my Festool inventory is sold. I will advise all my American friends to invest in Festool and get rid of their gold, paintings and stocks. What a comfortable future for me as a Festool-owner.  [eek]

 

[duburban]

what am i missing on this thing? it seems like an under powered table saw to me...

 

[Paddyfin1]

Wow what a mark up
What else can we flog

 

[agehall]

what am i missing on this thing? it seems like an under powered table saw to me...

If you use it with the TS-55 it may be a bit underpowered, but pop in the TS-75 and I'm pretty sure you won't complain.

It's also a very portable item and it becomes even more useful when you have multiple inserts so it can act both as a table saw and a router table. I got my CMS last summer and I regret not getting one earlier.

 

[Zacharytanner]

I can see it being usefull on a jobsite but in a dedicated shop I would have my cabinet saw

 

[agehall]

Sure, if you have the space, dedicated machines are probably better. I don't have the luxury of having a workshop, so all my tools have to be carried out to the back porch when I want to use them and then hauled back in when I'm done. Thus I very much value the portability of the CMS.

 

[AlexThePalex]

what am i missing on this thing? it seems like an under powered table saw to me...

Portability?

Festool doesn't make stationary tools, nobody should make the mistake to compare the CMS with one.

Sure, if you have the space, dedicated machines are probably better. I don't have the luxury of having a workshop, so all my tools have to be carried out to the back porch when I want to use them and then hauled back in when I'm done. Thus I very much value the portability of the CMS.

Same here.

 

[gckc117]

That's crazy but the cms seems pretty amazing.  I am currently negotiating dropping close to 2K on some 25 year old inca tools, a table saw and a j/p.  Both shop tools but probably about as "powerful" as the ts55 cms. 

If you wanted to go the other way, this guy has been trying to sell a circular saw screwed to a sheet of plywood for about 6 months : http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/tls/2854522113.html  - I bet the cms sells faster.

Is there a module for the festool planer?  I wonder why festool doesn't make something like a 6" hand planer that could be incorporated by the cms.

 

[peter halle]

My guess is that it is the scarcity of the product.  I anxiously await the day that the CMS comes to the US, but doubtful of it ever being presented here with the ability to use a TS-55 or 75 in it.  That then diminishes it's fabulous versatility in my mind.

Although Festool doesn't offer a planing solution for the CMS, they do have a stand for the 850.  I haven't read that much about how it performs, but my guess is that it would work well for shorter pieces.

Peter

 

[agehall]

Is there a module for the festool planer?  I wonder why festool doesn't make something like a 6" hand planer that could be incorporated by the cms.

I have not seen any insert for the planer, but maybe there is one. If not, you could probably make one. It occurs as a heck of a lot simpler than building a router insert, which a lot of people do.

 

[duburban]

I'm comparing it to a bosch portable saw. Bosch is probably a little more awkward but it has wheels and folds up quickly. So you buy the table system and then have to provide a saw? Not into it but i'll watch more videos to look for enlightenment.

You've all seen the smaller portable saws coming out right? from dewalt, bosch.

what am i missing on this thing? it seems like an under powered table saw to me...

Portability?

Festool doesn't make stationary tools, nobody should make the mistake to compare the CMS with one.

Sure, if you have the space, dedicated machines are probably better. I don't have the luxury of having a workshop, so all my tools have to be carried out to the back porch when I want to use them and then hauled back in when I'm done. Thus I very much value the portability of the CMS.

Same here.

 

[AlexThePalex]

I'm comparing it to a bosch portable saw. Bosch is probably a little more awkward but it has wheels and folds up quickly. So you buy the table system and then have to provide a saw?

If you want to. The point of he CMS is that you buy one table and then can put a couple of different tools in it. Tools which you can also use by themselves without a table. Currently you can choose between 2 circular saws, 3 routers, 2 jigsaws and a band sander. That's quite a bit more versatility in your hands than any Bosch saw offers.  

But if you don't want this you can always choose for a dedicated mobile saw from any brand you like, including the 2 Precisio saws Festool offers. The Precisio CS 50 is the CMS with a non-removable saw. It's all about choices. Over here in Europe, there are many people who choose for the CMS system. Others don't. I chose a Precisio.