Festool Drill Stand

I've been seriously considering getting a drill press but don't have a shop as yet, so if I could find a drill stand that at least sturdy enough It might be better for my mobile shop situation and work out fine for most of my uses; metal work, making precise jigs, Model making spindle sander etc.

I found this  at Dieter Schnid - Fine toolshttps://www.fine-tools.com/bohrstaender.html the last offering on the page  a DUSS Precision Drill Stand KB 43 solid as a rock and you can rotate the head so you can use it to drill in the middle of a piece, I had thought of making an offset bench so you could drill through to 240mm by flipping the stock around normally it comes with 120mm depth of travel which for most uses would be fine. Putting a heavy duty Festool drill in it would be great if you have a lot of centrotec bits.. Unfortunately the collar is 43mm so it wouldn't fit the beefier Festool drill  DR 20 FFhttps://www.toolstime.de/Festool-Bohrmaschine-DR-20-E-FF-Set-768933 just the smaller Quadrillhttps://www.toolstime.de/Festool-Bohrmaschinen-QUADRILL-DR-18-4-E-FFP-Set, which is no slouch and would be compatible with the PDC quick fix chucks I already own..
 

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I'm on the fence for the Mafell BST 460 S. Haven't found much video footage so if anyone knows alink, feel free..
What i like about it is the ability to drill at a repeatable angle, i  can see some creative uses for that.
 
Thank,[member=7673]neeleman[/member], that's about the only vid i found on google. Though, i believe it's the 46cm or 65 cm version; cuz afaik there's no 32cm version where one can rotate the pillar.
 
I just stumbled on the following Made in Germany and very reasonably priced line of drill stands:

https://www.wabeco-remscheid.de/catalog/category/view/s/drill-stands-and-accessories/id/104/

And now commences the oft repeated search for a retailer (maybe the manufacturer?) that is willing to send one across the pond....

Oh, but before I begin the search: all of the drill stands I've found that are marketed on the Atlantic's right coast are designed for drills that have a "43mm neck size". I'm away from my tools at the moment so I can't verify what "neck size" my ~decade-old US-made 1/2" Milwaukee drill has. But, if I had to guess, I'd wager it's not 43mm. I only assume this based on our tendency in the U.S.A. to not adopt standards that the rest of the world uses. Anyways, does anyone know how the neck sizes of our drills compare to the 43mm standard? IOW, are our drills compatible with Euro-drill stands? [EDIT: 12/08/2019 - Turns out that my ~20 year-old Milwaukee 1/2" drill, model #0302-20, does in fact have a 43mm Euro-neck!]

The only English-language video review I can find:



Edit: FWIW there are several eBay sellers that are specifying shipping to the U.S.A. for a selection of these drill stands. That makes it easy.
 
TinyShop said:
I'm away from my tools at the moment so I can't verify what "neck size" my ~decade-old US-made 1/2" Milwaukee drill has. But, if I had to guess, I'd wager it's not 43mm.
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I believe it's 46mm because I was also looking at using the Wabeco stand with a 1/2" Milwaukee for simple outdoor projects when you're away from the drill press.
 

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Cheese said:
TinyShop said:
I'm away from my tools at the moment so I can't verify what "neck size" my ~decade-old US-made 1/2" Milwaukee drill has. But, if I had to guess, I'd wager it's not 43mm.
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I believe it's 46mm because I was also looking at using the Wabeco stand with a 1/2" Milwaukee for simple outdoor projects when you're away from the drill press.
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OK, thanks so much for the info!

And, although you correctly assumed that my drill has a "neck" (I've noticed that many drills nowadays - at least those that don't have an allowance for the installation of a right angle stabilizing handle - go directly from motor housing to the spinning end of the drill, so no "neck" to speak of) I should have stated that my drill features a splined neck that is designed to accept the right-angle stabilizing handle that it originally came with. This uniform "neck" gives me some hope that I can make my corded drill work with a euro-drill stand. Now to contact Wabeco to see if they can assist in devising a workaround to my drill's non-standard neck diameter/design.

I should note that I don't have a shop (only a storage room) which is the primary reason behind my moving in the direction of a drill stand. I don't want (nor do I want or have the dedicated space for) a drill press. Plus, I'm addicted in all areas of my life to tools/devices/spaces/stuff that have multiple uses/functions - like a telephone that is also still camera, video camera, audio recorder, computer, etc., or a TS 75 which is a track saw but also the business-end of my CMS table saw (w/sliding table), the latter of which is also my router table, soon-to-be sanding table and soon-to-be jigsaw table, etc. For my various uses (and owing to the self-imposed limitations demanded by my oath to voluntary simplicity), my mantra is, "Why own a dedicated tool when I can own one that can accomplish multiple functions?" Therefore, a high quality drill stand (which I can also perhaps adapt to my Fein Mulitmaster, which, as its name implies, is also adept at accomplishing numerous tasks) is right up my alley. ;)     
 
I just discovered that what I assumed comprised the Fein "drill stand" is actually just an adapter designed to fit "popular" drill stands thus allowing the Fein MM (or, for that matter, the Vecturo) to work in conjunction with what are otherwise "standard" Euro-drill stands. This dovetails nicely with the recent discussion that appears elsewhere on this forum about the compatibility between the Vecturo and the Fein-branded drill stand adapter (and other Fein-branded accessories):

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/fein-table-top-and-drill-jigs-support-with-vecturo/msg533533/#msg533533

Should be an easy matter procuring the adapter to allow the Vecturo (or, in my case, the Fein MM) to be used in conjunction with any "standard" drill stand - like those produced by Wabeco - should I encounter the need.

 
[member=64030]TinyShop[/member] “Festool version” of what?
Does Famag make a drill stand?
No mention of such in the index of that catalog.
 
Also, just stumbled upon another option, this time from Japan. Behold, the very reasonably priced Kanzawa K-801-4, angle-adjustable portable drill stand:

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Kanzawa makes other fixed (i.e. "90-degree") stands as well. Here's the relevant page on their website:
http://www.kanzawa.co.jp/products/attachment01.html#01

As of this writing there are numerous eBay sellers offering these stands to the N.A. public. (examples)

Obviously, a major advantage of the Kanzawa offerings (at least to those of us located in N.A.) - owing to the integrated/onboard Jacobs chuck - is the lack of a need for a drill that features a 43mm collet (the "Euro-standard"). Additionally, both the angle-adjustable version (which should fold into a flat package with the quick-release cam-locks or guide-rods themselves removed) and the fixed 90-degree versions (all of which which are easily disassembled) are ideal for storage/transport. Maybe they would fit nicely into a systainer?

Here's a fixed-angle K-801 in action (showing, among other things, its use as an oversized depth stop):


 
Michael Kellough said:
[member=64030]TinyShop[/member] “Festool version” of what?
Does Famag make a drill stand?
No mention of such in the index of that catalog.
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My post assumed folks were aware of the Festool product that forms the entire basis for the OP. My apologies for any confusion. So, to clarify, Famag manufactures the Festool GD-320 Drill Stand (768768).

Regarding your other question, I already linked to the relevant page in the catalog (Pages 38-39). But, if you're looking solely at the Table of Contents, then you'll want to refer to "Drill Rig for Auger Bits". 
 
Two things on the original question: the Mafell one is the way to go. 
On either, you need to use really long (aka really expensive) augers. 
These are timberframing tools, and not really practical for woodworking/cabinetry/finish carpentry.


For the follow up comments, the smaller/cheaper designs (like the Wolfcraft) are generally very very very bad.  There are some higher quality products in Europe, but those are more of a makeshift drill press than something that you bring to the work.

The Kanazawa one is new too me, however.  I want to check this out.  It borrows the main themes of the cheapies, but it may possibly be legit where the concept of "actual functional tool" is concerned.
 
Thanks for the extra links.
When I went to the Famag catalog it just started with the first page.

I was somewhat familiar with the thread but since it had moved beyound the Famag/Protool/Festool drill guide a long time ago I wasn’t sure of the subject of your addition.

The Kanzawa looks pretty robust. Much better than the General I have and haven’t used in decades.
 
Cheese said:
UJK from the UK also offers a drill stand that’s machined from aluminum billet, it’s constructed nicely.  TSO Products is the distributor in the US.
https://tsoproducts.com/workholding-accessories/ujk-technology-drill-guide/
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We have a winner! :) I just signed up to receive an alert when they become available. [Edit: 12/08/2019 - Thanks to another member's recent find, we now know that the latest version of the UJK drill stand is produced in Taiwan by Fortune Extendables Corp.]

Given it's esteemed provenance, I'm really surprised the forthcoming UJK model has no allowance for dust collection. Maybe the fine people at [member=59331]TSO Products[/member] can nudge the UJK / [member=63423]AxminsterTools[/member] folks in that direction? I'm envisioning a removable clear hood similar to the version that comes with the OF1400 (or equivalent). Even the poorly reviewed sweatshop-made Wolfcraft TecMobil drill stand comes with one:

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Anyways, thanks for the heads up! :)

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I just saw that they took it off of the market (shortly after the first run).
Hopefully they still plan to relaunch.
 
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