Festool Shopping list

[PreferrablyWood]

After doing the math researching various things I've made a shopping list. I'm a mobile workshop kind of guy, do a variety of jobs painting, kitchens, I'm a gardener, where I need to, build or renew trellises, tables, benches. I've assisted in the building of a sound studio a purpose built standing building added onto a  3 bay cement garage. Built cabinets, fences, these types of jobs and activites have been spread longer period of time. So although I should be super proficient, I still feel I have a lot to learn and am quite pleased before, during and after when doing even the simplest little project.. Economically I see investing in this set up as a way to create a a business that can bring me interesting experiences and be mutually benefiicial (within a modest framwork) for myself and my community, with a time frame that reaches to long after the usual retirement age. (Mom lived to 97)

So my shopping list for the ultimate mini portable setup follows:

Festool Router OF 2200 EB-Set 574395

Festool MFS 400 492610

Festool MFS-FS 495648

Festool MFS-VP 1000 492725

Festool  MFT/3-VL

Festool CMS-OF 570251

Festool Multifunction table MFT/3 495315

Festool Circular saw TS 75 EBQ-Plus-FS  561514

Festool CMS-TS 75 493360

Festool Sliding table ST 492100

Festool Fastening clamp FSZ 300 489571 two sets

Festool Cordless drills CXS Li 1,5 Set
CODE: 564272

I missing a few items, the new quad drill, and additional blades, router bits, centrotec bits, the Sysroll and systainers, a finer finishing sander, a loose estimate would be that the whole setup comes to about 5000 euros.. If pull in my belt, get payback from a few jobs, maybe get a partial loan, but not more than 1/3 of the total cost,  it will be doable! Funny though to be so Festool centric after such a short time..It's the FOGs fault! Foiled by the Fog in the Fall of 2013!

But seriously I have had bit's and pieces of substandard kit for years, and if I'm going to work with this handyman thing now I want to get maximum productivity out of my time and efforts.. Look ma no backpain!

 

[ScotF]

That looks like a great set-up!! 

Scot

 

[sancho57]

iThere are a few things you left off your shopping list

- TS 75 for jobs

-TS 75 module for Jobs\CMS accessory fence for jobs

-2 mfts for jobs

- couple of blades for jobs

- various grits of 6" sandpaper for jobs to

We are getting into the Xmas season and all santa would make jobs a happy boy

 

[peter halle]

Only you can make your list of tools and ultimately have an idea of what kind of work you might be doing in the future and also your space needs, but based on the pricing I saw on the Festool UK website (  www.festool.co.uk  for those in North America or anywhere outside of the UK) I think that you would be better off getting the CMS-GE versus the MFT/3-VL.  My reasoning is that it appears you want to have tools that offer you the most flexibility but once you get the VL you MUST also carry around and set up the MFT if you are going to route a 12" long piece of wood.  Or perhaps you have your MFT set up to crosscut long pieces of wood into slightly shorter long pieces of wood.  The CMS (which is the same height as the MFT) can be placed away from the MFT to act as a support, but the VL will only increase your MFT table size and might require you to need something else in addition.

Just my thoughts.

Peter

 

[PreferrablyWood]

iThere are a few things you left off your shopping list

- TS 75 for jobs

Festool Circular saw TS 75 EBQ-Plus-FS  561514

Festool CMS-TS 75 493360

-2 mfts for jobs

I've got one mft3 on my list, and am thinking of building my own assembly table with adjustable height but also using the MFT type top

- couple of blades for jobs

That is on the extras list..

- various grits of 6" sandpaper for jobs to

When I get one of the finer finishing sanders I buy boxes of the most commonly used grits..

We are getting into the Xmas season and all santa would make jobs a happy boy

Santa who's he? Oh and Mr. Jobs didn't he pass away recently?

 

[PreferrablyWood]

Only you can make your list of tools and ultimately have an idea of what kind of work you might be doing in the future and also your space needs, but based on the pricing I saw on the Festool UK website (  www.festool.co.uk  for those in North America or anywhere outside of the UK) I think that you would be better off getting the CMS-GE versus the MFT/3-VL.  My reasoning is that it appears you want to have tools that offer you the most flexibility but once you get the VL you MUST also carry around and set up the MFT if you are going to route a 12" long piece of wood.  Or perhaps you have your MFT set up to crosscut long pieces of wood into slightly shorter long pieces of wood.  The CMS (which is the same height as the MFT) can be placed away from the MFT to act as a support, but the VL will only increase your MFT table size and might require you to need something else in addition.

Just my thoughts.

Peter

I'm sort of following Reiska's idea about using the MFT/3 VL used in conjunction with a LA super fence attached to the MFT to gain width capacity for both ripping and crosscuts for especielly the TS CMS unit. It suspect that it would be quite difficult in some situations to level seperate tables like at for example outdoor sites.. I will still need an outfeed table, this could be  a pair telescoping roller stand or sawhorses with easily adjustable legs.

I admit though that  the CMS freestanding table is a very slick solution, and doesn't add that much to the kits total price especielly if I get a TF 75 version.

I'm basing my shopping list on maximizing the benefits of the savings on the various kit versions..I can't get the OF 2200 set combined with a OF Table version so I will go with OF 2200 with accesorry set alone, ad the OF insert then get TS 75 CMS table set. Going with the MFT/VL version loses me the savings on getting the TS  kit though..

Thanks Peter for your insight inputs on my buying list.

My plan is to get the OF 2200, MFT3 and template guides and som clamps from the list first. Within the next couple of months then upgrade with the TS 75 and CMS in phase two.. in say 6 months..

 

[Sparktrician]

I'm going to suggest that you start out with the OF 1400 instead of the OF 2200.  The OF 1400 is a better all-around choice for a first router in that it has broader applicability.  The OF 2200 has its place, for sure, and it's a true workhorse, but it's not necessarily the best choice for small work that you may encounter.  You could use the price differential to move up to the CMS-GE and gain versatility. 

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I'm going to suggest that you start out with the OF 1400 instead of the OF 2200.  The OF 1400 is a better all-around choice for a first router in that it has broader applicability.  The OF 2200 has its place, for sure, and it's a true workhorse, but it's not necessarily the best choice for small work that you may encounter.  You could use the price differential to move up to the CMS-GE and gain versatility. 

Thanks for the suggestion, I was going with the OF 2200, because it's the most bang for the buck if you find a good price on the set version. Also I plan on using it lew of an edge planer, surface planer.. Also I've got a plan to get either the OF 1010 used, or the Dewalt dual base unit as supplements if and when I see the need for it. I noted also ready the forum that many OF 1400 users are looking for a smaller trim router, others went the OF 2200 and OF 1010 right from the start and these users seem moslty pretty happy with the setup..

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I'm thinking the sequence of buying for my Festool setup through here today. It srikes me that right now I don't really have worktables, good squares a lot of tried and true methods for getting accurate results. Eyeballing and using the factory edges of materiels gets me close to okay results. I have to face up to the fact for my intended uses it important to have a more precise/safer method of working.  Therefor I may get the MFS table and the guide systems, with the smaller router first, then get a used TS EBQ 55 in a few months  then upgrade to the bigger TS75 and OF 2200 with the CMS in a year... So shopping list phase one follows:

Festool Fixed clamps MFT-SP x2

Festool Fastening clamp FSZ 300

Festool Connecting piece FSV

Festool Multifunction table MFT/3

Festool Router OF 1010 EBQ-Set GB 240V

Festool Extension profile MFS-VP 1000

Festool Routing template MFS 400

Festool Router carriage MFS-FS

A used TS 55 EBQ around january.

In 6 months the OF 2200 set  with CMS or MFT/VL, in one year the TS 75 with CMS insert.

 

[NYC Tiny Shop]

I think that your list is good. I agree with the guys... only you can decide on what tools you are most comfortable with.  I will always chose the lightest tool to get the job done.  Generally, I buy tools, as the need arises, for the job at hand or "on-deck."  This keeps me from buying a tool that will just end up sitting in the toolbox, collecting the wrong dust. 

  You may find having a few chisels and a small hand plane handy.  I, personally never liked the idea of using a router to plane wood. I have always used hand planes. Now, that I'm having some physical problems, I'm looking into the EHL 65 or HL 850.  Some things don't get easier with age. (BTW, I may be unloading some of my amazing collection of hand tools, in the near future.)

When you start to make money,  maybe think about acquiring a Kapex. For the work that you describe, you don't need one, but it would make life easier, and faster.  Now, that I have one, I wouldn't go back to cutting everything on the track saw/mft/3. Again, this is just personal preference.

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I think that your list is good. I agree with the guys... only you can decide on what tools you are most comfortable with.  I will always chose the lightest tool to get the job done.  Generally, I buy tools, as the need arises, for the job at hand or "on-deck."  This keeps me from buying a tool that will just end up sitting in the toolbox, collecting the wrong dust. 

  You may find having a few chisels and a small hand plane handy.  I, personally never liked the idea of using a router to plane wood. I have always used hand planes. Now, that I'm having some physical problems, I'm looking into the EHL 65 or HL 850.  Some things don't get easier with age. (BTW, I may be unloading some of my amazing collection of hand tools, in the near future.)

When you start to make money,  maybe think about acquiring a Kapex. For the work that you describe, you don't need one, but it would make life easier, and faster.  Now, that I have one, I wouldn't go back to cutting everything on the track saw/mft/3. Again, this is just personal preference.

I have a nice basic set of swedish 5 chisels, and electric plane and small plane.. I agree that it's a good idea to not buy tools without a practical usage for them right away.. Getting the lightest tool possible is also always the most egronomic solution easiet to move and store as well.. My issue is I need good layout and working space that can be moved, stored and carried easily, here the mft with template guides with the TS 55 or TS 75 plus my Carvex, and the small router. I like how the MFS system is pretty compact and very versatile..combined with thre router, jigsaw or circular sae..

 

[NYC Tiny Shop]

There's a guy, I think it's TimTool?, who posted a set-up that you may find useful.

 

[NYC Tiny Shop]

Yes, found it.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/mftc-portable-workshop/

Maybe, you'll get some ideas from this.