Festool Vacuum cyclone dust collector

[ChuckM]

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Being on a tight budget (and outside of liquids collection where it could shine) I would go Oneida ahead of this in 100% of cases.

That's more or less the same line of reasoning why so many think they'd go Dust Deputy (Original, Delux or 2.5) ahead of Festool CT Cyclone in 100% of cases! [tongue] [tongue] [tongue]

No. It is not.
Not sure why you are playing false arguments this way. It is below you.Snip.

No, it is not a false argument. You may disagree with anyone who thinks the DD is a more cost-effective system, but that doesn't mean your ownership of a CT cyclone makes your argument sound. Why do you think everyone needs the cyclone to be connected to a Festool CT, for example?  In case you don't know, there're (fill-in-the=blank) times more non-Festool vacs in use out there than CTs. All my DDs are not hooked up to a CT (my previous CT26 was). I use the CT15 as a standalone unit.

Your insistence that the CT Cyclone trumps every other cyclone unit in the market is beyond me. And you're losing your objectivity because of your insistence.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Based on the info. gleaned from the internet, the port is 4" in diameter. The product has received very good reviews on Amazon, and emptying the container doesn't seem to be an issue for anyone. Here's one video someone has posted on YouTube:

I saw a lot of those videos and most from what I could see or read were sent the unit to review, one even went so far as to say they were completely independent, but were sent the unit for free to review, but received no monetary compensation for the act of reviewing it. To me that's a little suss. One wood shop supposedly doing a massive amount of work said they would go through a $100 extractor every year or so but this unit will now save them hundreds.

A DD in the first place would have done the same job, and much, much easier, secondly I find it very hard to believe any shop producing significant amounts of work would use such a high maintenance and bulky unit like this, let alone use inefficient $100 extractors that continually die and need replacing every 12 months!

I'm a hobbyist but when I have my drum sander going I can generate 40L of dust easily in a part day. But as my bag holds 100L I'm good for at least a couple of days, not every hour or so as this unit in comparison.

Also, look at the dust billowing when being emptied, and imagine how much worse it would be trying to neatly pour that into bags without it blowing back in your face. Nope, just don't get it sorry.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Well, the Oneida set version goes $150-ish from what I gather.

So this product is really about being *lower* cost than even the basic DD. Still better than a long-life bag. But barely and at a comparatively huge footprint.

Being on a tight budget (and outside of liquids collection where it could shine) I would go Oneida ahead of this in 100% of cases.

The sites I saw all showed this unit to be around $250-$279USD, that's significantly more expensive, where did you see it at a lower cost than $150?

 

[ChuckM]

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I saw a lot of those videos and most from what I could see or read were sent the unit to review, one even went so far as to say they were completely independent, but were sent the unit for free to review, but received no monetary compensation for the act of reviewing it. To me that's a little suss. Snip.

Agreed. For me, the free product received -- whatever it was --  was already a form of monetary compensation. If it wasn't, please send me a new car for review!

Funny that we also see something similar in the press all the time: "The officials were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to the {media name] on condition of anonymity." If authorized, why would it be anonymous?

 

[luvmytoolz]

Your insistence that the CT Cyclone trumps every other cyclone unit in the market is beyond me. And you're losing your objectivity because of your insistence.

Pretty much every subjective and objective review has found the DD to be superior to the CT-VA in performance and dust collection, and most certainly in least amount of suction lost.

 

[krudawg]

I thought others would be interested in a similar setup. This is a cyclone dust collector that can be fitted to any vacuum. The company supplies all the pieces with instructions on how to measure and cut them to fit your specific vacuum. Its a solid piece instead of other cyclone systems that have multiple pieces to the cyclone portion. There are casters and when attached can roll around with your vacuum. It works great, the company is called "The Mullet Dust Cyclone Collection".

Jeeze, I'm not sure I want to put up with loss of mobility and possible reduction in CFM. I'm just a hobbyist with a small 1/2 Garage Shop.  I think, and it's just me, changing a bag once in a while is a lot less hassle.

 

[NiteWalkerGR]

Jeeze, I'm not sure I want to put up with loss of mobility and possible reduction in CFM. I'm just a hobbyist with a small 1/2 Garage Shop.  I think, and it's just me, changing a bag once in a while is a lot less hassle.

It all comes down to how often you change your vac bags really. More than once a week is too costly in time and money spent on bags for me, so in my small shop I use a dust deputy.

 

[usernumber1]

it's not the bag changes for me, it's the filter staying clean like new. No cleaning of the filter and no loss of suction as you fill up the DD.

there's a minor suction loss but nothing compared to how much suction you would lose when filters and bag start clogging

and with the new dd2.5 i don't see any loss to my naked eye