Festool Workplace Organisation and Storage Solutions - Videos

[DiscoStu]

Peter thanks for the info. I've been using a DeWalt recently and I find the shadow line almost pointless because you have to lower the saw to get the guard out of the way. I'm sure for ultimate accuracy lowering the blade is ideal but for a lot of things a mm or maybe 2 doesn't affect what I'm doing and if it's a particularly big and heavy workpiece it's not easy to move with one hand.

Rather than a banding machine have you considered a roll of the industrial cling film? It comes on a reel and you can insert a handle and you just wrap it around the item.

I'm campaigning for them to produce Christmas pattern cling film as I'm sure loads of us guys could use it for their Christmas wrapping.

Looking forward to the video as always! If you need a hand getting rid of the saw then I'll pop up and help!

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[DiscoStu]

Btw I did wrap Christmas present in kitchen foil one year and that works well. Again if they offered that in decorative wrap it would sell well!

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[Stone Message]

Hi Stuart

That is a great idea to use that industrial cling film. I see that Screwfix do it so will give it a try.

Don't let the shadow line put you off the KS60. It is there and it works but it is improved by lowering the blade. I have now filmed the trenching and that is better than the KS 120. It may be that the columns are stiffer or it may be the lighter head unit but it is better.

With luck the overview video will be up late tonight or early Friday. The second video with all the cutting and so on should be done by Sunday or Monday.

Peter

 

[Bohdan]

I think that I am going to have to buy a banding machine now to re-pack all the tools - life is never easy.

Peter

You can get banding with band buckles that are fitted by hand - much cheaper for the occasional use.

Example buckle

 

[Stone Message]

Thanks [member=36526]Bohdan[/member]

You learn something new every day.

Cheers.

Peter

 

[glass1]

Baha ha.  Come on these reviews are getting ridiculous.  This crap has nothing to do with how  real professionals work.  Great marketing for the part timers buying into the festool propaganda. Sorry to be so harsh but this is getting ridiculous.

 

[bkharman]

Baha ha.  Come on these reviews are getting ridiculous.  This crap has nothing to do with how  real professionals work.  Great marketing for the part timers buying into the festool propaganda. Sorry to be so harsh but this is getting ridiculous.

Didn't make you click on this thread... didn't make you watch one (or both) videos... perhaps you leave us non professionals alone in the videos that make us happy and entertain us.

Perhaps you should go to the professional Festool owners forum, you can find it at the same place you can get a nice warm glass of ...

Cheers. Bryan.

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[Stone Message]

It is interesting the number of professionals who do indeed use these Festool items. They are probably the ones who have too much work to spend time on a thread like this or are so well organised that they can enjoy a bit of FOG leisure time. I visit several local professionals who do not blog, are not members of any fora and work 6 days a week. I keep them up to speed with new kit and, when I am able, I show them any kit that has been on loan to me before it is sent back.

I sometimes help them out with routine stuff. I made a batch of KS120 zero clearance inserts not so long ago which went to professional friends - at least one of whom is a serious professional and FOG member. By this morning I have sent out 98 sets of plans for these toolbox inserts.

I first saw the large Festool toolbox in a working environment being used by one of the chaps working on a £3m house near London. One of my desks had been delivered the day before and so I was able to show it off to him. It was quite topical as the desk was walnut and he was just finishing off the solid walnut detail on the staircase.

Peter

 

[DiscoStu]

I'm currently at a theatre with a number of professionals. Nearly all of them have had a play with my tracksaw and said how much they like it and one of them has even ordered one online today. They obviously knew of Festool but viewed it as expensive after seeing the accuracy and me explaining the 3year warranty and insurance they all seemed very impressed and they liked the systainers and how they link etc.

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[jdw101]

Many thanks Don.

The kit is excellent but not cheap. Some argue that it is better to make your own but I doubt whether a busy professional could justify spending the time doing this. My "guesstimate" is that most professionals could earn enough in time that they would take to make toolboxes (with drawers and that fit together) to buy double the number of Festool storage solutions than they need.

Peter

Even for us hardcore hobby types it's worth it, protecting your investment and making things portable at the same time.  I have convinced my wife to use these for all of her craft, sewing and nail polish collections.  I have and am making furniture all the time for her hobbies but these make a great solution to things you want to have mobile.  Now when she goes to a crafting event she can bring all her Sortainers with a cart and wheel it in, even if that event is just out in the living room or at a friends house.   

At first she had a fairly negative reaction to the price of the items but slowly she's coming around.

 

[sancho57]

Baha ha.  Come on these reviews are getting ridiculous.  This crap has nothing to do with how  real professionals work.  Great marketing for the part timers buying into the festool propaganda. Sorry to be so harsh but this is getting ridiculous.

I promised myself I wouldnt get sucked into these type of conversations, but this one Ill make a exception to.

Every pro I know uses festools. At least the pros that are working on high end projects. Most use a MFT or MFT knock off such as the Ron Paulk work bench. One old carp who is now retired (60 years in the business) taught me some valuable lessons. He makes "kits" He has a "kit " he uses for door / window / trim carpentry work, installations

Festools systainers and sortainers make creating and organizing those kits very easy. In fact when I saw Peters videos especially the one about buying extra boxes for the cantilever tool box and the 3 door sortainers,

I got all giddy cause the light went on.

Why did the light go one you may ask?

Because when I return to the states next month I have a lot of outdoor projects planned both for myself and some other folks. The ability to throw some screws in a tool box companied with a installers kit ( I have a limited offer one that was only available in Europe maybe just the UK that was put together for outdoor projects/ timber framing).

So my life will be a lot easier using this ONE system rather then bits and pieces of many diferent manufacturers creating a "kit" of mishmosh kit of different manufacturers tools etc.

Ive asked Peter to get that Sys MFT video he mentioned made and posted.

Why?

Honestly ( No offense Peter) , not because I think he is a genius and pro at using tools,  or the most cleaver person I know of wood working,

but because his ideas on how he does does things ( same with most people who post their tips), Help me generate my own ideas on how to make my wood working, both shop and home remodeling life easier.

For pros its all about saving time and producing quality work for the most part the best way to save time is work flow, efficent work flow is in the prep.

Just my opinion, your milage may vary

 

[Tezzer]

Baha ha.  Come on these reviews are getting ridiculous.  This crap has nothing to do with how  real professionals work.  Great marketing for the part timers buying into the festool propaganda. Sorry to be so harsh but this is getting ridiculous.

If you don't like them don't look, I think they're great and get a lot of good information and ideas out of them.

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Ron and Terry

[member=10147]jobsworth[/member]  [member=1341]Terry Fogarty[/member]

I am sure that [member=4687]glass1[/member] was not being nasty in any way and probably has his own way of working that does not require the degree of jobsite organisation that this kit allows.

As I said before, I have seen these in action with busy professionals and I have no doubt they will also be of great use to other talented people including those who have non woodworking day jobs.

Cheers.

Peter

 

[sancho57]

True Peter.

I try not to get in those sort of conversations. They usually are unproductive and don't benefit the forum much. But this time I had to say something.

 

[Tezzer]

I didn't think he was being nasty just condescending. Uncalled for in my opinion.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Here in the Netherlands Festools are used a lot by professionals. When you walk by a work site, any site, you always see them, including all these ridiculous "hobbyist" boxes.

I really wish people would try to make their point in a respectful way. Anyhting else only reflects badly on themselves.

 

[Holmz]

Here in the Netherlands Festools are used a lot by professionals. When you walk by a work site, any site, you always see them, including all these ridiculous "hobbyist" boxes.

I really wish people would try to make their point in a respectful way. Anyhting else only reflects badly on themselves.

What exactly is disrespectful in the wording?
Or how should it be reworded to convey the same thoughts and opinions?

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Baha ha.  Come on these reviews are getting ridiculous.  This crap has nothing to do with how  real professionals work.  Great marketing for the part timers buying into the festool propaganda. Sorry to be so harsh but this is getting ridiculous.
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It may be that professionals in North America work differently from those in Europe or the UK. (As the UK is Brexiting) and
Or maybe professional or hobbyists in shops have varying needs.

I appreciate the opportunity to see the video and also Glass was crystal clear.
I see no disrespect.

 

[scalci]

Peter, very nice.... Love it

 

[Stone Message]

Peter, very nice.... Love it

Many thanks - I was beginning to wonder whether I had posted this on the wrong forum !

Peter

 

[mikeomalley]

Peter, Excellent as always! So helpful to a less talented guy like myself [emoji15]
Mike

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