Festool's first U.S. production line

I use my Kick Back Stop a lot. I do use my saw & rail for doing plunge cuts into kitchen worktops for sink and hob cutouts.

As has been said, just slide the Kick Back stop on from the other end, simple.
 
On the custom guide rail question, keep in mind that we sell exclusively through independent dealers, which would complicate the ability to do custom lengths significantly. When we aren't receiving the end customer's order directly, that's another layer of complexity for customized products.
 
TylerC said:
On the custom guide rail question, keep in mind that we sell exclusively through independent dealers, which would complicate the ability to do custom lengths significantly. When we aren't receiving the end customer's order directly, that's another layer of complexity for customized products.
That sounds like you havn't heard about some recent innovations: parcel services, computers and internet?

Quite some stuff I ordered from independent dealers was shipped to me directly from festool central warehouse (according to the labels on the boxes), so I wonder where the problem should be with a customer ordering a custom length rail at his local dealer, that one logging into your system via the internet and entering the order that then gets made on demand and shipped directly to the customer.

But looking at the current still in progress desaster with the websites you surely have a valid point, that would be complicated.
 
TylerC said:
On the custom guide rail question, keep in mind that we sell exclusively through independent dealers, which would complicate the ability to do custom lengths significantly. When we aren't receiving the end customer's order directly, that's another layer of complexity for customized products.

Seriously? It's called communication, and shouldn't be a problem in the information age.

Customer to dealer: Please get me rail of xx.xx length. My name is Johnny Woodcutter and live at House Road 555.

Dealer to Festool: please send me a rail of xx.xx length.

Festool: cuts rail, sends it to dealer.

Dealer: gives rail to Johnny Woodcutter and gets money. Festool receives fair share.
 
Is there any chance that they'll find a better glue and make the splinter strip stay on?

:-)
 
Roseland said:
Is there any chance that they'll find a better glue and make the splinter strip stay on?

:-)

Is that a common problem then..? I have a good number of rails of different lengths, some older than others but have never had a splinter strip start to peel or fall off.
I have peeled the splinter strip off deliberately myself on a couple of my rails and moved them across when they have got a bit worn, but they have stayed stuck after I've reapplied them. Are yours the factory fitted edges that have peeled or edges you have applied yourself...?
When applying an edge back on, its important to ensure the underside of the rail is spotless clean. I use Denatured Alcohol to clean the rail then reapply the splinter strip.
 
Roseland said:
Is there any chance that they'll find a better glue and make the splinter strip stay on?
Festool should simply redesign the strip to slide in a slot. Just like Mafell strips. There is no way this solution is patented, you can find it everywhere.
 
It sure would be wonderful if Festool would get 3M to come up with an adhesive that holds up properly now that they have a relationship with them.

Two weeks ago I went out and found that 5 guiderails had lost their strips overnight in my van and trailer.  So I cured that problem with contact cement.  I don't change my strips out often.  So far so good in 98 degree plus temps.

Peter
 
Svar said:
Festool should simply redesign the strip to slide in a slot. Just like Mafell strips. There is no way this solution is patented, you can find it everywhere.

Like on the bottom of storm doors for example.
 
Alex said:
TylerC said:
On the custom guide rail question, keep in mind that we sell exclusively through independent dealers, which would complicate the ability to do custom lengths significantly. When we aren't receiving the end customer's order directly, that's another layer of complexity for customized products.

Seriously? It's called communication, and shouldn't be a problem in the information age.

Customer to dealer: Please get me rail of xx.xx length. My name is Johnny Woodcutter and live at House Road 555.

Dealer to Festool: please send me a rail of xx.xx length.

Festool: cuts rail, sends it to dealer.

Dealer: gives rail to Johnny Woodcutter and gets money. Festool receives fair share.

You forgot to ask if he wanted the Holey or the Heathen version. :)
 
TylerC said:
On the custom guide rail question, keep in mind that we sell exclusively through independent dealers, which would complicate the ability to do custom lengths significantly. When we aren't receiving the end customer's order directly, that's another layer of complexity for customized products.

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MY OPINION - I realize that there are a lot of wishes and wants in this thread - even by me - but keeping it real Festool is going to go status quo by their statements for the time being or longer.  To change extrusion designs would probably mean worldwide changes and that isn't something that will happen in combination with setting up a production line in another country.

Peter
 
Peter Halle said:
MY OPINION - I realize that there are a lot of wishes and wants in this thread - even by me - but keeping it real Festool is going to go status quo by their statements for the time being or longer.  To change extrusion designs would probably mean worldwide changes and that isn't something that will happen in combination with setting up a production line in another country.

Peter

^^ This. Although I don't work in production, I would imagine that the priority is matching and maintaining the quality and efficiency of the German production operations. Any changes or enhancesments would be secondary.
 
D.I - I can see how the stops would be useful for sink cutouts.  That's the one time I used it , but found it more trouble than it was worth.  Eyeballing a witness mark to the line on the saw shroud is much faster for me.  I think the guide strip glue issue is related to geography.  Here in the SE USA , my guide strips fail often and regularly and have since the late 90's. We have hot and humid weather year round.  Very different than Germany. I rarely hear problems in the Northeast USA or Europe where the temps are much cooler.

Gregor & Alex , your view is often voiced by many who have no clue what it's like to run a manufacturing business, or young uns who have grown up in the Information Age where everything is point, click and deliver tomorrow.  I'm not picking on you.

It's just that running a global manufacturer with hundreds of products that need to be delivered withing a week at a fixed price in twenty different currencies doesn't lend itself to customization.  Even someone like TSO who is small, lean, and has demonstrated the ability to quickly respond to customer feedback doesn't offer customizing of their products.  It's simply a different animal.

Computers/ websites can easily accept orders and UPS can deliver a widget anywhere in the world overnite.  The difficulty is getting that custom order processed, priced,  resent for approval, re-received, materials ordered or machine code written for your one off and then slotted into production.  Produced, then custom packaging needs to be made before it's shipped. THAT takes manpower that you will have to pay for.  How much more are you willing to pay for all that?  And remember , your also going to have to pay for the opportunity cost that is lost by not producing our regular scheduled widgets at a known profit. 

Ford could easily take your order for bronze alligator skin seats, herringbone cashmere roof lining and pink sheepskin carpets. They could also make them as they have plenty of experience with seats, roof liners and carpets in cars. No way is that going to happen though. Rolls Royce is happy to accommodate those requests though.

Peter H.  Could you eleobrate on the new 3m relationship ? 
Changing the extrusion really isn't prefaced by a new U.S. production line.  It would just require a change to that line.  Just like Germany did when they changed the rails from one spine to the current two spine design. The extruder will produce anything they want to design and pay for. Instead of a section that presses a clear stick on strip to the bottom, they would have a section/module insert one into a slot.  Packaging could stay the same, and we sure as shootin know the deflector won't change. 😜
 
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