Fogtainer Design Opinions Poll for Those Interested in Buying

[waynelang2001]

Whats happening here ??? Where have all people interested in the FOGtainer gone ??

 

[harry_]

I just thought of another option. Maybe some members would like just the logo latches to put on their regulars Systainers. 

[thumbs up]

 

[peter halle]

I would like to thank everyone who has voted, but I would urge those who haven't voted to vote.  The majority will determine what we seek permission to produce.  So far we have only had one member pull out when the storage tops were announced to be unavailable.

VOTE PLEASE.

Peter

 

[Brice Burrell]

Has everyone voted? If you haven't what are you waiting for, lets hear from ya....

 

[harry_]

I think I voted. But regardless, at this time it is more a `hypothetical` than an actual as far as a purchase goes. If I needed to buy an empty, I would certainly prefer a custom FOG systainer over a regular one provided that the cost difference was not absurd. I am more concerned with filling systainers right now 

I think that latches are a good idea as well.

Will the dealers be getting involved at all? As in if I were to by a Domino or whatever that comes in a systainer, can/could I get it in in a FOGtainer for only the difference of cost?  [poke]

These dark systainers, how will they handle a day of direct sunlight.  Get soft or brittle?

 

[jonny round boy]

These dark systainers, how will they handle a day of direct sunlight.  Get soft or brittle?

I can't say for 100% certain, but it shouldn't be a problem. Tanos make the systainers in Germany, and charge a top-end price, so I'd put money on the fact that the ABS they use is top-notch, quality material.

 

[Sean7a]

These dark systainers, how will they handle a day of direct sunlight.  Get soft or brittle?

I can't say for 100% certain, but it shouldn't be a problem. Tanos make the systainers in Germany, and charge a top-end price, so I'd put money on the fact that the ABS they use is top-notch, quality material.

We're on the verge of launching a sister company to The Tool Nut that will be Tanos' #2 exclusive US Distributor.  I've brought in ALL dark systainers (anthracite grey).  I guarantee you they'll hold up to the sunlight.  You don't need to worry

 

[Frank Pellow]

These dark systainers, how will they handle a day of direct sunlight.  Get soft or brittle?

I can't say for 100% certain, but it shouldn't be a problem. Tanos make the systainers in Germany, and charge a top-end price, so I'd put money on the fact that the ABS they use is top-notch, quality material.

I accept your claim that they use top-notch, quality material but that does not stop the "normal" Festool systainers from yellowing over time.  There is a very discernible difference in colour between the systainers that I purchased 6 years ago and the systainers that I purchased withing the last year. 

By the way I am not complaining about this, just observing.  Furthermore, this is something that I would expect to happen.

 

[jonny round boy]

These dark systainers, how will they handle a day of direct sunlight.  Get soft or brittle?

I can't say for 100% certain, but it shouldn't be a problem. Tanos make the systainers in Germany, and charge a top-end price, so I'd put money on the fact that the ABS they use is top-notch, quality material.

I accept your claim that they use top-notch, quality material but that does not stop the "normal" Festool systainers from yellowing over time.  There is a very discernible difference in colour between the systainers that I purchased 6 years ago and the systainers that I purchased withing the last year. 

By the way I am not complaining about this, just observing.  Furthermore, this is something that I would expect to happen.

Frank,

You are of course correct - even the best quality plastics will deteriorate due to UV over extended periods of time. But the OP asked how they would hold up over the course of a day, not years. I think he was more concerned with the issue of a darker colour absorbing more heat from the sun & any consequential change in the physical properties rather than discolouration.

 

[harry_]

These dark systainers, how will they handle a day of direct sunlight.  Get soft or brittle?

I can't say for 100% certain, but it shouldn't be a problem. Tanos make the systainers in Germany, and charge a top-end price, so I'd put money on the fact that the ABS they use is top-notch, quality material.

I accept your claim that they use top-notch, quality material but that does not stop the "normal" Festool systainers from yellowing over time.  There is a very discernible difference in colour between the systainers that I purchased 6 years ago and the systainers that I purchased withing the last year. 

By the way I am not complaining about this, just observing.  Furthermore, this is something that I would expect to happen.

Frank,

You are of course correct - even the best quality plastics will deteriorate due to UV over extended periods of time. But the OP asked how they would hold up over the course of a day, not years. I think he was more concerned with the issue of a darker colour absorbing more heat from the sun & any consequential change in the physical properties rather than discolouration.

Yes, I have a plastic case down in the shop that is a bugger now because it spent the day open on the tailgate of my truck.

 

[peter halle]

Harry,

The melting point of abs plastic is 221 degrees Fahrenheit.

Peter

 

[peter halle]

We need to get going on this.  This poll has been open a week and there has been limited participation.

This poll is going to be closed Monday night.

Vote your choices before it closes or lose your right to help mold what the design might become!

 

[peter halle]

Reminder that this poll will close tonight.  If you want to voice your opinion and help in the design of the custom Fogtainers, do it tonight!

 

[peter halle]

The people have spoken.  It is impossible to please everyone, but here is what the design poll tells us:

The majority of those who voted wanted the large logo to be green and engraved and colored if possible.

The majority did not want the logo on the latches.

Also, at this time I have confirmed interest in 135 custom systainers based on PM's sent to me.

Hang in there guys, we are moving again.

Peter

 

[Frank Pellow]

Thanks Peter, I am looking forward to owning two of these systainers. 

Have you decided upon a size or sizes?

 

[Holzhacker]

Right on Peter. Let's get this show on the road. I need 3 now and am waiting. Almost bought one Sys the other day while at my dealer but decided to wait. What color did we decide on, Pink?
Hey wait a minute that's not a bad idea. Female version systainers.

 

[peter halle]

It has been 2 weeks and 2 days since the first poll to see if we had interest.  We then asked for specific information from respondents to the poll that had to be accumulated.  Then some members busted their butts to render ideas to coincide with possible designs and then ran another poll and reported the results.  If there is someone to blame for the delay, it is me- please send me a PM.

I have just sent a request to the appropriate party along with renderings for permission to use the FOG logo and seek approval of the design.  The design is the dark blue systainer with the plain green Festool latches and the FOG logo in green to approximate the Festool green.

Frank, the placement of the logo was intentionally placed to fit the systainer one and remain at that same location referenced off the bottom edge of a systainer so that all the sizes could be offered versus just one.

When I have further information to share, I will gladly do so.

Holzhacker - pink might be available if you want to order 150,000 for your personal use in one size.  Hey, no one has too many systainers.

Peter

 

[Tim Morris]

Bear with him guys. He's a carpenter trying to survive out there in the jungle like a lot of the rest of us and has an enormous amount of his own time commited to this point. Peter again really appreciate this effort I can't wait to add a couple to my colection.  [thanks]
TIM

 

[Frank Pellow]

...
Frank, the placement of the logo was intentionally placed to fit the systainer one and remain at that same location referenced off the bottom edge of a systainer so that all the sizes could be offered versus just one.
...
Peter

That is good news to me Peter. 

I knew that the design allowed for the logo to be placed on any size of systainer.  But, I thought that production and distribution costs would limit our options for the small number of systainers that we are going to be ordering.  I expected one, or at most two, sizes to be offered. 

And since, I would really like a fogtainer to use as my carry-on office box (see the thread http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/carry-on-systainer-for-officecomputercamera-use/ ) and that must be systainer 3, I am very happy to hear that this will probably be available to me.

 

[jonny round boy]

The majority did not want the logo on the latches.

Peter,

That's disappointing, as I really liked the latches with the logo. Someone (I think it may have been Brice, but I'm not 100%) suggested making extra latches available for replacing ones on existing systainers.

Would it be possible to have the FOG-emblazened latches available separately? I'll still buy the systainers I indicated in the poll, but it would be nice to get the latches as well, even if it means replacing plain ones & having spares.

If it's not possible or feasible to do it at the same time as the FOGtainers (I realise you have limited time to devote to this, and thank you for that), could the FOG latches be the 'next project' in the FOG line?

JRB