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I own far too many Festools, but like others do have other brands.  I actually prefer my Bosch jigsaw to my Festool one. 

I am a big fan of the Fein Supercut (haven't seen anything else similar.  I use a Makita impact screwdriver - none of my 3 (oh dear!!) Festool cordless drivers have enough muscle for screwing big torx headed screws. 

I have a Felder (Austrian) combination Saw / Shaper /Jointer /Planer - not as good as a Martin, but definitely along Festool lines.

I use Lee Valley / Veritas hand tools (when I can get them at reasonable prices - in France retailers ask ridiculous prices) I like their planes a lot.

Otherwise quite a bit of Metabo gear, a Spit gas nailer, Senco nail guns, Robert Sorby chisels.....

I'm after a new paint spraying setup and would welcome any suggestions on this Forum.  I've been looking at a Fuji.  Any suggestions
 
Richard, I'm far from an expert on paint sprayers, but I've got the Fuji Q4. I'm real happy with it. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.
 
hi Richard

          I have 2 hvlp sprayers one is a CS 9100 form spraytec and the other is an hvlp/airless type sprayer also spraytec which works real well.Spraytec recently introduced a five stage turbine CS 9900 which is supposed to spray most all coatings with little or no reducuction, which would be great. If your only spraying stains and varnish you don't need a real heavy duty sprayer, however, if you plan to spray paint and why not it's huge fun, you really need to step up to a 4 stage or maybe even the 5 stage.
        Graco has introduced a new hvlp/airless sprayer which uses regular airless tips but with fine finish application. If I were to get one today the graco would be it.The main problem with paint sprayers, other than over spray, which you need to be very careful of, is that when people see you using them they ask you to do lot's of projects, however, the good news there is it doesn't take long to recoup the price of the sprayer. peace dan p.s. I believe the websites are graco.com and spraytechinc.com or google
 
In the beginning, HVLP meant High Volume Low Pressure. with the introduction of 4 and 5 stage turbines it seems like they should be called HVMP.
 
Hi Michael,

Adding more turbine stages simply increases the volume of air, the pressure at the air cup remain 10psi or less.  More volume means better atomization with most turbine guns.  Pressure pot guns are far more tolerant of viscosity differences than gravity feed guns so are much easier for most to use day in and day out.  If you are using water based finishes be sure to remove the plastic filter from the bottom of the gravity feed guns in order to get proper atomization.  Check out the manual I wrote for Targetcoatings.com for details.

Jerry

Michael Kellough said:
In the beginning, HVLP meant High Volume Low Pressure. with the introduction of 4 and 5 stage turbines it seems like they should be called HVMP.
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Jerry Work said:
Hi Michael,

Adding more turbine stages simply increases the volume of air, the pressure at the air cup remain 10psi or less.  More volume means better atomization with most turbine guns.  Pressure pot guns are far more tolerant of viscosity differences than gravity feed guns so are much easier for most to use day in and day out.  If you are using water based finishes be sure to remove the plastic filter from the bottom of the gravity feed guns in order to get proper atomization.  Check out the manual I wrote for Targetcoatings.com for details.

Jerry
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Thanks for the reply Jerry but I still don't get it. You're trying to push material through a tiny hole and I don't see how more volume without more pressure will do that. I'll check out your manual again when there is time.
 
Richard,

I had all but made up my mind to get the Fuji and save the extra money on Accuspray until I went to AWFS in Las Vegas and played with the 3M PPS system.  For a guy who hates to clean up as much as I do, the PPS system is off the charts.  So I bought the Accuspray system instead (the gun has gotten really good reviews)

If you check out the 3M website, there are videos of the PPS system in action.

havent used it yet -- I'll report back when I do.

HTH

Dave
 
 I also use a Fuji Q4 Pro. Love it.  I shoot Target Coating's Waterborne products - Ultima Spray Lacquer, Ultra Seal Shellac, Emtec8800 sealers, Super Clear Polyurethane. I started as a total novice with the spray equipment and have had outstanding results from the start.  I use a 1.4 mm tip without the need to thin or dilute. Getting better at it with every use. Clean up is a snap. Waterborn  ;) - no nasty fumes and solvents.
 I just started experimenting with adding pigments. Doing a cabinet now with white pigment added (Golden product) to the sealer and to the SuperClear (the box will be white, the trim and moldings will be natural wood) Looks like white glass. Going to be using some of their new HybriVar varnish on next project.
  No connection to any company or product, just a happy sprayer getting quality results. For those new to the spray finish world I would suggest reading Jerry's Target Coatings manual and also the finisher's forum at Target Coatings.        
 
Dan Clark said:
Dave,

I'm confused.  Did you buy the 3M PPS or the Accuspray?

Thanks,

Dan.
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Same difference.  3M bought Accuspray recently so you get the option of Accuspray with or without PPS (very slightly more with PPS).  The sale prices were good (rare to get accuspray at any discount at all) and ended on July 31 -- you might still be able to talk General Finishes into holding the price (also comes with 40% all general finishes for a year, although I'm really looking forward to standardizing on Target Coatings).

Dave
 
Michael Kellough said:
Dave Rudy said:
....3M bought Accuspray recently so you get the option of Accuspray with or without PPS (very slightly more with PPS)....

Dave
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Dave, what is PPS?
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Dave,

Thanks for the feedback.  I'd like to second Michael's question.  Please explain PPS more.

Regards,

Dan.
 
Thanks everyone for your input.  As I've just forked out for a Kapex Kit with table etc I fear I'll have to hold off on a sprayer till my finances recover.  I didn't know that the Kapex stands used a tape measure, ingenious but means you have to calibrate each time you set up (easy actually as they explain you just use an accurate length of wood as a guide - why haven't I thought of that before?)
 
Dave Rudy said:
http://www.finishingequipmentandsupplies.com/paint-preparation-system.htm

The video gives the overview quickly.  The system really works.

BTW, I noticed that Homestead Finishing (Jeff Jewitt) is also selling the PPS system and that it works with most types of guns -- it might well be compatible with Fuji also.

HTH

Dave
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Dave,

Thanks for posting this.  I've been thinking about a spray gun system for a while - probably HVLP.  One of the things that made me hesitate is the cleanup involved.  If you have a full time operation and have a cleanup station, this may be less of an issue.  But for more random use, cleanup is a hassle, IMO.  The PPS system looks like it removes a lot of that hassle.  To me, that alone would be worth the extra bucks. 

Regards,

Dan.
 
My thinking too, Dan.  And when I saw it and played with it at the show, it was amazing.  The inner liner collapses like a plastic sandwich bag to conform to the remaining material in the cup.  And by disconnecting the vacuum tube and pulling the trigger, returns to its original cylindrical shape.  Has an air-tight top for storage of remaining material for multi-session or frequently used finishes.

Literally, the only clean-up required is the short section of the gun between material intake and spray nozzle.

I'm shortly going to start a major painting project -- long deck railing and posts.  I'll let you know whether it works out as advertised.

Dave
 
Dave,

Thanks!  I like the idea of the air-tight top for storage.    This is looking more and more attractive.

Please report back on how your project went.  TAKE PICs!!!   

Regards,

Dan.
 
    Seriously, if your interested in spray equipment, please do yourself a favor and check out graco.com and/or spraytech has some nice sprayers as well. I have 5 different spray tec models and they are all a large amount of fun to use. thanks dan
 
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