From Rough Sawn to Workable TS75 and 850 Power Plane

Every other thread on this board stays so strictly on topic that I thought I could just get away with it just once.

Please don't give me a ticket from the SATP, honestly officer, I promise it's my first offence

(Self Appointed Topic Police)
 
That's ok Steve.  I had absolutely no idea what you were talking about.

Per, I am going to save every one of your reports.  When all else seems to be going upside down for me, i will brng them out and there are absolutely no bad feelings that can possibly hang around under an onslaught from your humor.
Tinker

 
Hey, I never assigned blame. I think topics the MS tend get people fired up and can spiral out of control quickly. Drifting off topic isn't always a bad thing, I don't mind so much when we start on the TS55 and end up at the Domino. But when we get off of Festool or tools all together, that's different. When getting off topic on the kind of thread we see everyday it's less of a problem, but when it happens on the few threads that have information we don't see everyday, well I just think it hurts everyone.

I'll delete this post in a day or two after people get a chance to see, since it detracts from this thread.
 
Per Swenson said:
Screw the Kapex, next big job, I need a MacPro.

Welcome back everybody

Per

I got a Macbook Pro for fathers day and I love it.  None of those stupid Micro_oft problems.  I'm planning on getting Mac desktops. 

Once you had a Mac you won't go back.
 
UH! That was off topic too!

Fine, if anyone wants to talk to me I'll be over here in the corner, sulking :(

 
Great method of work Per!!! By the way, I like your backyard!!! ;D

Dan Clermont
 
Don T said:
I got a Macbook Pro for fathers day and I love it.  None of those stupid Micro_oft problems.  I'm planning on getting Mac desktops. 

Apple/Mac - you can buy better but you can't pay more :-)

Fred
 
I'm just amazed Per...you people with real skills are incredible.

I'm making my diningroom table (rectangular) which thins out at the ends a bit (i.e. the bottom
surfacer approaches the top surface). I *know* that a skilled woodworker could probably do it by
hand with a good planer, but i don't have the guts to try it. Instead, it's either getting put, a piece
at a time, into a big sander, or off to the CNC it goes...

I love these kinds of posts, they really up the bar of what I'd consider do-able with handheld
tools..
 
Minimal,

Its called courage.

This stuff is a lot easier then it looks.

My motto is to do and fail then learn then do again.

You know what kinda rubs me the wrong way?

All the mystique and secrets that surround this business

and hobby. That and all the misinformation.

Don't get me wrong, I am talking misinformation in General.

You get on these forums, and you read "Geez that isn't the proper way to do that"

or you will get better results...blah, blah blah.

The way I see it, like many things, its like hunting ducks.

The object is to eat.  We loose sight of that, after we have invested in all the camo clothing,

the 4x4, the Purdy shot gun, and those dang yappin dogs.

When the real secret to the question, lies in the question itself.

"how did he do that"

Well, "he just did it"

I like to build stuff.

I hope I am making sense.

Per
 
Thank you very much for posting this.  I am a newbie at woodworking, and being limited in space, I have struggled with how to start without a planer and jointer.  I was flat out told by several rather (rather rude) sales people to give up if I did not have adequate space for the appropriate equipment (no jointer, planer, table saw, drill press and router table).  I need to find new salespeople.  I am glad to hear of a Festool work around.  I'm not working on anythigng as large as your boards, so maybe it will be even easier.  Plus, I don't have the distraction/motivation of your backdrop.  That water looks inviting. 
 
 
immunoboy said:
Thank you very much for posting this.  I am a newbie at woodworking, and being limited in space, I have struggled with how to start without a planer and jointer.  I was flat out told by several rather (rather rude) sales people to give up if I did not have adequate space for the appropriate equipment (no jointer, planer, table saw, drill press and router table).  I need to find new salespeople.  I am glad to hear of a Festool work around.  I'm not working on anythigng as large as your boards, so maybe it will be even easier.  Plus, I don't have the distraction/motivation of your backdrop.  That water looks inviting. 
 

I have a "table" that I've built that's basically 4' x 12'.  It has been used to make concrete counter tops on for my kitchen remodel, but once I'm done with all of that (I have one more piece to make), I plan on building some cabinets on the space.  I have some incra rails that I'll install into one of the 4' x 4' pieces of MDF top, and I'll probably drill some 20mm holes (similar to the MFT top) for clamping elements.

Other than that space?  I don't have much.  The table backs up to a wall, and there's minimal clearance on each side.  That's fine, though - I don't feel a burning need for a drill press, I have a router.  I don't feel a burning need for a table saw, I had one, ditched it for the Festool saw.  If I need to do any planing, which I've looked into, I have room on that table to run 6' worth of board (from feeding it in to having room after it's passed through the planer).

I plan on making a nice little place for all of my tools under the table, as well as supplies and project "storage". 

Yes, the tools are "expensive", but you know what?  I live in San Francisco, and real estate values here, even after taking a bit of a dip are way more painful.  $500 per square foot?  Yeah, I don't have much room for a "shop" - these tools are dramatically less expensive than using storage space or buying a place with enough room for all of that dedicated machinery.  Nevermind how nice the 'system' is, and how precise and flexible the tools are...
 
Thanks Per for the great reviews. I own both of those tools and love them. |I use my planer in a whole different way though. As you know most of my work is small in size so the planer/jointer is much more user friendly when it comes to flatening or straightening small pieces. I have a grizz 6" jointer and it almost never gets turned on. My 850 is set up with the aux fence set up and it works fantastic. As far as the TS-75 goes, simply the best saw ever hands down. Still not use to not seeing the blade though. Too many years with a skill worm drive I guess. ;D
 
I always enjoy reading what you post as I find it very interesting and informative.  Like the pictures too.

Chuck
 
immunoboy said:
Thank you very much for posting this.  I am a newbie at woodworking, and being limited in space, I have struggled with how to start without a planer and jointer.  I was flat out told by several rather (rather rude) sales people to give up if I did not have adequate space for the appropriate equipment (no jointer, planer, table saw, drill press and router table).  I need to find new salespeople.  I am glad to hear of a Festool work around.  I'm not working on anything as large as your boards, so maybe it will be even easier.  Plus, I don't have the distraction/motivation of your backdrop.  That water looks inviting. 
 

The first question I ask salespeople is "Which one do you have?". If they don't have, how can they be such an expert?

I went to the same school you did Per. You don't really know how right something can be until you've done it horribly wrong.
 
Eli said:
immunoboy said:
Thank you very much for posting this.  I am a newbie at woodworking, and being limited in space, I have struggled with how to start without a planer and jointer.  I was flat out told by several rather (rather rude) sales people to give up if I did not have adequate space for the appropriate equipment (no jointer, planer, table saw, drill press and router table).  I need to find new salespeople.  I am glad to hear of a Festool work around.  I'm not working on anything as large as your boards, so maybe it will be even easier.  Plus, I don't have the distraction/motivation of your backdrop.  That water looks inviting. 
 

The first question I ask salespeople is "Which one do you have?". If they don't have, how can they be such an expert?

I went to the same school you did Per. You don't really know how right something can be until you've done it horribly wrong.

I would have harsh words with the sales person and speak with the manager but thats a whole diff thread.  You can do it without the big tools and a 1k sqr foot shop.  I started out cutting wood in my one bedroom apartment in what doubled as the living room with a cheap tabletop lowes special TS.  I had my dad's hand tools and a tape measure and speed square.  Was it difficult and a pain in the arse, but it got the job done.  I made a few things made mistakes and learned from them. I moved up to a 10'x12' space in my basement of my first house and got a shopsmith combo tool it was a pain to do change overs to make all the functhions work, but again it got the job done.  I now (a few houses down the road and 20 plus year) have a good cabinet saw/jointer/bs/plainer. It makes the work easier and quicker but by no means a requirement.  As for the jointer you could get a hand plane and get the job done it just takes a lot of sweat equity. 
 
Well, I don't know that I'd give up my 14" jointer/planer for this technique, but it really does provide a great alternative when you are "somewhere else" from where that wide jointer happens to be! Nice tutorial. Thanks!

I had a chance to faddle with Uncle Bob's Festool power planer a few years back and was very impressed with the tool.
 
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