German Homemade cheapo parallel guides for the TS saws

ginocon

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Hi
Just found this on the web from the Holzwerken TV people. Needles to say German innovatons again. For those who can't afford the parallel guides yet this is a very good option that works. some enhancement would be to add some metric tape to them.  (see the video at around 4:20min)

 
ginocon said:
Hi
Just found this on the web from the Holzwerken TV people. Needles to say German innovatons again. For those who can't afford the parallel guides yet this is a very good option that works. some enhancement would be to add some metric tape to them.  (see the video at around 4:20min)



Eyeballing a folding rule to set up rips and crosscuts?  Just lickety split without even taking that close a look at it?  Okay, if you say so.

If this guy can actually do this then adding a tape would would not be an enhancement.  It would just slow him down. 
 
fshanno said:
ginocon said:
Hi
Just found this on the web from the Holzwerken TV people. Needles to say German innovatons again. For those who can't afford the parallel guides yet this is a very good option that works. some enhancement would be to add some metric tape to them.  (see the video at around 4:20min)



Eyeballing a folding rule to set up rips and crosscuts?  Just lickety split without even taking that close a look at it?  Okay, if you say so.

If this guy can actually do this then adding a tape would would not be an enhancement.  It would just slow him down. 


I think you need to skip to 4:20 in the video to see the guides.
 
Are those saw horses shown in the video available in the US? Very nice for a small shop.

Farmmachine,
 
farmmachine said:
Are those saw horses shown in the video available in the US? Very nice for a small shop.

http://www.wolfcraft.com/en/products/p/clamping_tables/1_master_600_clamping_and_working_table/s/p/index.html

Not exactly the same model, but they're from Wolfcraft. It's a wel known DIY brand in Germany, but the quality is really nothing special. They often have nice, well thought-out and original solutions and then blow it by using cheap materials and a flimsy design.
 
Paul G said:
Those parallel guides work basically like Seneca guides.

Excactly, with a metric adhesive tape on the jig you can moreless emulate the Seneca guides.
 
Ah yes Guido Henn..

Hes awesome.
Some of you folks should take a look at his Chaos therorie pretty darned kewl.
 
promark747 said:
fshanno said:
ginocon said:
Hi
Just found this on the web from the Holzwerken TV people. Needles to say German innovatons again. For those who can't afford the parallel guides yet this is a very good option that works. some enhancement would be to add some metric tape to them.  (see the video at around 4:20min)



Eyeballing a folding rule to set up rips and crosscuts?  Just lickety split without even taking that close a look at it?  Okay, if you say so.

If this guy can actually do this then adding a tape would would not be an enhancement.  It would just slow him down. 


I think you need to skip to 4:20 in the video to see the guides.


What?  He attaches his rip guide and then he measures from the edge of the splinter guard and slides the stop to the end of the rule.  Correct?  

But it does get me thinking.

Maybe he's tried it and figured out that he's better off just measuring to the splinter guard with a rule or tape each time than going with applied tapes and creative stops with hairlines etched on plastic.  
 
He uses that rule in most of his videos.

I think he has everything already set up and is just showing the process.

Thats what i would do.

He comes here sometimes , well He used to. Nice guy speaks or writes very good english.
 
Yes the folding rule just demonstrates that you can slide the fence to a certain position, and shure its better to fix a measuring tape.

But the best way to get an exact parallel left and right fence, is to use two wooden sticks which you can slide and fix with bolts to the distance you need. This stick should be placed between the slideable fence and the guiderail, so you have to add the width of the guiderail for the exact measurement.

When you use the same stick to adjust the right and the left fence, you can be absolutley sure that the cut is parallel. The most important part when you cut cabinet sides is „parallelism“ and not the perfect half-millimeter-precision width of the cut.

Nobody will find out that a cabinet is one millimeter to small, but can see directly when something isnt perfect parallel.

I often tell my students that they should not stick to much to the measurements in a woodworking plan, because this is a more theoretically cut list depending on certain thicknesses of sheet goods. But in real a 19 mm thick board could vary from 18,5 to 19,5 mm.

A good woodworker doesnt stick to dimensional accuracy but to accuracy of fit. Hope you understand what I mean ;-)

Best regards

Guido
 
Can those tool stands used be found in the US or where can they be purchased from? Wolfcraft does not make a stand that has a foot tightening system.
 
don't know whether you can get one in the US, but in Germany it was called "wolfcraft master 800". But the company stopped this product so you can get now only very few of them (perhaps google knows where). It's really a pity that in the moment lone picks up the idea of a tool stand with foot pedal action. I am happy to have two of them in my shop and won't give them away ...

Regards Guido
 
When I set up rip guides, i set the guide closest to me with quick measure.  i guess it comes within 1/32 inch +/-.
i then, using tape or folding rule (I used folding rules for too many moons when in construction to change suddenly.  I have only been away from that work for around 30 years. Why rush?) and make sure both guides are set exactly the same.  That measurement i take off of the back of the rail. 
Tinker
 
That bench looks very much like B&D Workmate.  I have two of them (WorkMates) and even tho I have three MFT's, they still get a lot of use. They get used mostly when i am doing hand planing.  I hold it down with my left foot for stability.  A lot more solid than the MFT's for the purpose.

When i was in construction, i often did my own flashings and the WM made an excellent brake for folding edges and corners.
I also use them when breaking down sheets of plywood at the tailgate of my truck.  I use them the same way as Guido. Up until now, tho, I have not used parallel guides of any kind, but now i have the Rip Guides, i am sure the next time, I will do so.

Tinker
 
I agree with previous posts that the Festool parallel guides have a slightly different use than the other styles. FWIW i made a set of parallel guides out of plywood.  They work great.  Guido is right on when he mentions the final fit and not adherence to the "perfect" dimensions on plans.  Wood is a variable product and you have to constantly adjust for its vagaries.  That's why John Economaki is right when he points out his dislike/distrust of machine setups when its the final cut that is important.  I have measured out to the nearest 0.5 mm, cuts on Baltic birch and watch incredulously as the piece twisted and turned going through a 3.5 hp cabinet saw that was set to "perfection".  Posted pics of my homemade parallel guides are supplied.

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