Goods from Banggood

[ChuckM]

Snip. And if you mess up in the review you either incorporate that into your rating, or you go back and get more experience before reviewing.

Laziness certainly doesn't bode well in the eyes of a knowledgeable audience.

It's interesting that many people share their reviews (good or bad) based on their one-time use or limited exposure to the tool in question. The Kapex comes to mind as I write.

But the trophy goes to those who have never used or even touched a particular tool but go on to say that it's a scam.

 

[smorgasbord]

Dennis' newest video shows he has lost touch with his audience. He's gone from saving people $50 to buy a Chinese made doweling jig to now recommending they spend over a thousand dollars on a automated blast gate system.

In his newest, he attempts to return to his roots, reviewing Chinese tools. But, he can't even review the latest Chinese tool because it doesn't work on his nice Felder sliding tablesaw with an aluminum extrusion for fence.
The irony is thick.

 

[onocoffee]

But the trophy goes to those who have never used or even touched a particular tool but go on to say that it's a scam.

You already know there's a lot of people who say that about Festool.

I can only laugh.

 

[luvmytoolz]

You already know there's a lot of people who say that about Festool.

I can only laugh.

I do a bit of insta and anytime anything Festool comes up, the comments are immediately filled with vitriol and hate the likes of which are normally reserved by the rabid minority for posts on wood/resin projects!

I find it's absolutely pointless to clarify or respond to anything as it appears to operate as an exclusive "I hate anything more expensive than I bought" club.

 

[Woodenfish]

This old thread must still has legs? Everything I have purchased from Hongdui via Banggood has been of exceptional quality. I have also purchased a few of the other brands on the website with very good quality for the money. Many folks talk about the Chinese and IP theft. I don’t know if that applies to woodworking tools as most of them have been around forever and I don’t see any patent claims on any of them.

I see a lot of commenters being critical of some of the low cost Chinese import tools being anodized red like that gives the tool added performance, durability or increases its collective value because Woodpeckers tools are red. Personally, I like white printing on a black background. Tool brands have become akin to sports teams and folks like rooting for their favorite but in others eyes not so much. There are a great deal of woodworking tools out there and the brands seem to increase every week. As long as everyone is out there having fun it’s alright by me no matter what they choose to buy.

 

[ChuckM]

Many folks talk about the Chinese and IP theft. I don’t know if that applies to woodworking tools as most of them have been around forever and I don’t see any patent claims on any of them.

You're kidding, eh?

 

[Mini Me]

You're kidding, eh?

No, US companies copy stuff all the time as do every other nation's manufacturers. Woodpeckers are a prime example of this for a lot of their range. Someone had the idea of making a cordless drill and every other manufacturer copied it, watch what happens when the patent on the Festool Domino expires, every manufacturer will make a copy which is what happened when the patent expired on Fein's oscillating multi tool.

 

[ChuckM]

Wait. Are you saying two wrongs make a right?

Copying is fine if no patent infringement is involved. I was referring to examples in which Asian tool manufacturers infringed on another manufacturer's products while the patents were still valid. Think Veritas.

 

[smorgasbord]

I have also purchased a few of the other brands on the website with very good quality for the money.

As I posted upthread, I bought a ruler rated 4.5 stars by Dennis, and it was off by a full mm at 900mm. Completely unacceptable. Presumably, the version sent to him was more accurate, but the bottom line is you can't trust his reviews since no one knows what the Chinese manufacturer's quality control is like. And Banggood was quite frustrating to deal with in terms of refund.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Wait. Are you saying two wrongs make a right?

Copying is fine if no patent infringement is involved. I was referring to examples in which Asian tool manufacturers infringed on another manufacturer's products while the patents were still valid. Think Veritas.

I recall hearing this as one of the main arguments used when the tariffs were implemented, once a manufacturers product reached a certain rough threshold of items sold/revenue, it was then copied and produced en masse by Chinese manufacturers flooding the market with it at a cheaper price. Along with the fact it's almost impossible to sue Chinese companies for IP theft.