GRS-16 and GRS-16PE. Have you tried one?

[Davesbuildtips]

I don't know what the problem is. I tried both the GRS-16 and GRS-16PE in the TSC-55 with the saw and all the kit. The dust bag fits easily beside the battery charger. Pics included that I took today. [attachimg=1][/img]

 

[Davesbuildtips]

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[Bob D.]

I don't see the chargers. I have the AirStream batteries and chargers.
I wouldn't think that makes a difference though.

 

[Davesbuildtips]

View attachment 1Hi Bob. The charger is under the 27mm replacement nozzle, beside the dust bag.

 

[Bob D.]

OK, didn't see that before Dave.
You only have the one charger or you only keep one charger in the Systainer?

In post #11 you can see how my two chargers are stowed to the right
side-by-side and standing on end.

The Dust bag came stowed on the left and I added the extra blade in the slot
behind it.

Anyway, I have taken this thread WOT from where it started. Your review of the
GRS16 and GRS16-PE was very good and shows that capabilities of the two with
clarity. I find my GRS to be accurate and it speeds my work by reducing the time
needed to setup/square the rail before a cut.

 

[Davesbuildtips]

Hi Bob. I own the corded version of the TS55, I do not own the cordless version of the TS55, so I took the GRS-16 to the store and checked if it would fit to satisfy my own curiosity.

 

[jeh]

Yet another gadget for the tracksaw. With all of the similar gadgets available you would think someone would get a clue that their rail system needs improvement.

 

[Klemm]

[member=652]JimH2[/member] - do you have a suggestion? - what would constitute an improvement to the track?
what would be a cost effective alternative and improvement to an aluminum extrusion to for guiding the plunge cut saw?

How about  some responses , like " I wish the saw guiding system included or embodied the following . . . " ". . .  at a cost comparable to . . .)

what are the shortcomings of the solutions including aftermarket accessory combinations which are available now?

 

[jeh]

[member=652]JimH2[/member] - do you have a suggestion? - what would constitute an improvement to the track?
what would be a cost effective alternative and improvement to an aluminum extrusion to for guiding the plunge cut saw?

How about  some responses , like " I wish the saw guiding system included or embodied the following . . . " ". . .  at a cost comparable to . . .)

what are the shortcomings of the solutions including aftermarket accessory combinations which are available now?

I'm not criticizing the various solutions as they are all needed to overcome basic issues. I am saying that Festool needs to take a serious look at the design of their rails. There are a lot of aftermarket products for clamping rails together and alignment that they need to get in this market or tweak the rail design to avoid some of these issues. As an example why should I have to pay $100 to guarantee a straight connection between two rails or deal with alternative which is a super long rail with deflection issues. I have 2 of the FS3000's and both have deflections in the center. I have access to a 3rd with the same issue and have heard from others having the same problem. An improved connector might be able to solve the straightness issue when connecting 2 rails. Additionally Festool has a gazillion accessories and gadgets that cover almost every issue and use case. Surely they have ideas on how to address these most basic issues.

My solution was to look elsewhere and took me to Mafell and their rail system. I do realize that they just can't switch the rail system and leave everyone behind, but surely it must be possible to design a rail that accommodates any base plate changes that might be required to accommodate better connectors.

 

[HowardH]

sure beats the heck out my FS-KS.  I never could trust it.

 

[tazprime38]

Just got my fedex customs bill of £25 plus fedex handling charge of £12 for the GRS-16PE . 

This is more than the previous one ordered whic was about £34.

Its the £12 handling charge that is ludicrous.

This still does not diminish the excellence of the GRS -16PE  in any way☺. Fantastic product and looking forward to the Parallel guide attachment.

 

[TSO_Products]

Just got my fedex customs bill of £25 plus fedex handling charge of £12 for the GRS-16PE . 

This is more than the previous one ordered whic was about £34.

Its the £12 handling charge that is ludicrous.

This still does not diminish the excellence of the GRS -16PE  in any way☺. Fantastic product and looking forward to the Parallel guide attachment.

Experience such as you describe is the reason we are actively working on developing distribution in Europe, ASIA Pacific and North America. Keep an eye on our website "Where to Buy"  [wink]
Hans

 

[DynaGlide]

[member=61691]TSO_Products[/member] Any updates on the parallel guides for the square?

 

[eddomak]

Back on the original topic...

Thanks Dave (and others) for your wonderful videos on this product, and Dave, that's a fantastic idea about squaring against the MFT fence as well!

I ordered mine (PE version) and have been using it for 2 weeks now and am extremely happy with the purchase. I had sold my Festool Angle Guide (which I had used less than 10 times) as I have never really needed to cut anything regularly apart from 90 degrees, so the changeover cost wasn't bad for a hobbyist.

I found that (as others have noted) it does end up using some of the capacity of the rail, so whereas in the past I could use a 1400 rail to crosscut a 1200mm sheet, this is no longer possible. And this particular project it was a bit inconvenient as I was cross cutting a 660mm panel, so my 800 rail which I normally use (for easier handling) wasn't able to be used. Fortunately it was only on a couple of cuts which weren't on my MFT (gosh I love the MFT!).