Hanging Doors - Who does this?

WelshWood

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Hey guys,

After looking through youtube for a bit, I stumbled across this; When replacing old doors, using the old one as a template?

Personally, I've never done this, seen it, or know of anyone who does it, but after all it is a template..

Just wondering how common this actually is?


~WW
 
I might have done it once in all the time I've been a carpenter. I prefer to just measure and trial fit them until the gaps are right. Just as quick
 
Who leaves recievers on door frames like this?? I was on a job in London and the recievers were already CNC'd into the frame and the butchers that fitted the bedroom before I was part of the job did this on 93 bedroom doors :-( All because they were too lazy to level the head of the frame in properly :-( I had to mix countless sticks of wax to come up with a colour that matched the door frames to patch it in
 

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Ya and that's one of the better ones!! There was a few that were so bad I had to fill them up with two pack filler most of the way out. No excuse in the world for that shit.  [mad]

All the doors and frames came prehung and prefinished as well
 
galwaydude18 said:
Ya and that's one of the better ones!! There was a few that were so bad I had to fill them up with two pack filler most of the way out. No excuse in the world for that stuff.  [mad]

All the doors and frames came prehung and prefinished as well

One that sticks out in my mind..

My cousin works as a stonemason and was telling me about a chippie he had done some work with..

The client had 10 bespoke doors and linings made, widths were all different, heights were the same.

He managed to hang 8 of the doors before realizing the remaining 2 were WAAAAAY to small to fit the final 2 frames...

Would love to have seen him explain that to the client!

~WW
 
Jesus I wouldn't like to be explaining that one! A know the client would be telling me my problem you sort it at your own cost  [crying]
 
Oh Christ even worse and I suppose there was a lead time on them as well :-( Someone must have lost the end of there tape that morning.
 
I've only seen that template method on DIY programmes, most doors I replace seem to have unnecessarily large gaps at the bottom or weren't fitted very well in the first place so I prefer the more traditional way of measure and fit.
 
I have never seen this method in a video but is pretty much the exact method I used to do 12 door replacements in my old house. It was the best way match the hinges with really old houses imo.
 
I use the existing slab as a pattern, measure the points, mark the new slab.

Must be an older video, last show I saw Tommy used a Festool TS to cut doors.

Tom
 
I've done it but also mostly use it as a pattern, I'll mark up the old door with clearances to the jamb on each side or closure issues as a guide for the new door. Comes in handy.
 
galwaydude18 said:
Who leaves recievers on door frames like this?? I was on a job in London and the recievers were already CNC'd into the frame and the butchers that fitted the bedroom before I was part of the job did this on 93 bedroom doors :-( All because they were too lazy to level the head of the frame in properly :-( I had to mix countless sticks of wax to come up with a colour that matched the door frames to patch it in

Oh man thats nasty!!

 
i dont use the old door as a template, usually the old door is not fitted very well

i plane the door until it fits tight in the frame then scribe each edge to the frame
 
speed said:
i dont use the old door as a template, usually the old door is not fitted very well

i plane the door until it fits tight in the frame then scribe each edge to the frame

Totally agree i have yet to come across an old door I would be happy with using as a template
 
Using the old door as a template is a typical example of showmanship. If my carpenter or contractor did that, I would fire him.
 
Bert Vanderveen said:
Using the old door as a template is a typical example of showmanship. If my carpenter or contractor did that, I would fire him.
Couldn't agree more, any site carpenter worth his salt would have learnt the correct method to hanging a door.
The university of You tube is full of DIY quick fixes, some can be useful some just leaving you scratching your head, this method smacks of laziness IMO.
 
I think you guys are being unnecessarily harsh. First off we don't know that the original door was not fitted well. We do know it was custom cut to an inch or so shorter so one could infer that it was custom fitted. Please explain what is wrong with lofting the hinge positions from the original door. We stress all the time about doing less measuring and doing more direct transferring of measurements. What better story stick for hinge and latch placement could there be than the original door (if it was good to begin with)? To me, it sure seems better than laying a tape on the hinge jam a writing down hinge placements.

I am really curious about this because I have just gone through this process with a house my wife sold this past year. It had old, worn and dated hollow core doors that needed to be replaced. The frames were metal, plastered in, with no trim. I looked at each door to see how the reveals looked and decided the best way to get the hinge placements were directly from the old door. In most cases, I also trimmed the top of the door to match the old one. I left the bottoms alone as they had been trimmed for carpet and that had already been removed so the old doors had too much clearance to the floors. I also lofted the doorknob positions and trimmed the door widths as they were all different. It worked pretty well, so I wound up using the same technique when I replaced three more doors in our present home. In this case the doors were hung in well placed frames, plumb, straight and level, so I didn't need to trim the doors at all. What am I missing?
 
Dunno about you lot but I fit the door to the casing/lining.
Fit the door to the hole, mark where the hinges go when its in the casing and then set the hinges on the door.

I don't use the old door as a template, that's only good to use as a site table
 
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