Has any one made a dustless attachment for a demo hammer?
- Thread starter jhall
- Start date
Deansocial
Member
- Joined
- Mar 14, 2010
- Messages
- 2,110
jhall said:
yes Hilti
Ken Nagrod
Member
- Joined
- Jul 15, 2010
- Messages
- 3,431
neeleman
Member
- Joined
- Jan 2, 2010
- Messages
- 1,315
Starmix has one, it's called the Bohrfixx. The vacuum hose takes care of holding it against the surface as well as sucking the dust.
Have not used one myself, but I'am planning of buying one of those within a few weeks.
Don't know if it available in the USA. I'am afraid not.
Also take a look at the film Der Starmix bohrfixx - Bohrstaub war gestern!
Have not used one myself, but I'am planning of buying one of those within a few weeks.
Don't know if it available in the USA. I'am afraid not.
Also take a look at the film Der Starmix bohrfixx - Bohrstaub war gestern!
AlexThePalex
Member
- Joined
- Nov 12, 2008
- Messages
- 7,808
neeleman said:
I have a thing similar to that System X thingy in the vid. Works great. It is only suited for rotary drills though, and not for a demo hammer, but I guess something similar could be made for a demolition hammer.
neeleman said:
These things are so universal, they must exist in the States in one form or another.
R
Rob Z
Guest
We have the one made by Hilti, and use it with a Hilti demolition hammer. I'm not sure it woiuld work with another brand of hammer.
I'm wandering what the attachment would look like for the demo hammer, so I'm curious for Jhall's pics.
For drilling I have the spit version of the bohrfixx shown in the video posted by neeleman. (same thing, but orange instead of black) It works, but for drilling in walls I prefer a piece of ducktape and a postal envelope, stuck to the wall just below the hole. Minor drawback of the vaccuum attachment is that you need a slightly longer drill, and for the smaller hammer-in plugs I use I have a centrotec bit that's just the right depth, when I drill it in fully.
I also have a drill with an early version of the attachments shown in the other links. I bought it years ago, and it was an AEG (I remember that the price of the machine was in Guilders instead of Euro's, so it must have been before 2001.)
I really didn't like it for several reasons: it always left a dirty spot on the wall, the size of the round thing; it made the drill longer and heavier than a normal drill, and it was fussy to set up, (you'd have to hookup a frame with a dustbag to the machine, attach the telescopic thing with the little rubber shroud, and a little hose)
For drilling I have the spit version of the bohrfixx shown in the video posted by neeleman. (same thing, but orange instead of black) It works, but for drilling in walls I prefer a piece of ducktape and a postal envelope, stuck to the wall just below the hole. Minor drawback of the vaccuum attachment is that you need a slightly longer drill, and for the smaller hammer-in plugs I use I have a centrotec bit that's just the right depth, when I drill it in fully.
I also have a drill with an early version of the attachments shown in the other links. I bought it years ago, and it was an AEG (I remember that the price of the machine was in Guilders instead of Euro's, so it must have been before 2001.)
I really didn't like it for several reasons: it always left a dirty spot on the wall, the size of the round thing; it made the drill longer and heavier than a normal drill, and it was fussy to set up, (you'd have to hookup a frame with a dustbag to the machine, attach the telescopic thing with the little rubber shroud, and a little hose)
Michael_MA
Member
- Joined
- Jun 14, 2009
- Messages
- 203
I'm using this small VAC from Kärcher, if drilling is required in clean environments - and i love it, no hoses, no Vac required, and the compartment can hold the dust of 20-30 6mm holes.. it's about 15 Euro over here !
kind regards, Mike
Kärcher drill-dust catcher DDC 50
kind regards, Mike
Kärcher drill-dust catcher DDC 50
R
Rob Z
Guest
Frank Jan, here is a picture that shows the attachment on a Hilti demo hammer.
We used our CT22 because at the time we didn't have the companion Hilti vac which is designed to work with the Hilti equipment. One thing that Tom Bellemare suggested was to use the Festool spark trap as a way to stop the chunks of mortar from flying into the CT 22 and ripping the paper bag. I have since used the spark trap for its intended purpose, but at the time that novel use really saved the bags and prevented the CT from getting clogged with chunks of mortar.
We used our CT22 because at the time we didn't have the companion Hilti vac which is designed to work with the Hilti equipment. One thing that Tom Bellemare suggested was to use the Festool spark trap as a way to stop the chunks of mortar from flying into the CT 22 and ripping the paper bag. I have since used the spark trap for its intended purpose, but at the time that novel use really saved the bags and prevented the CT from getting clogged with chunks of mortar.
R
Rob Z
Guest
Hilti chip/dust collection attachment on Hilti demolition hammer:
jmbfestool
Member
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2009
- Messages
- 6,646
Rob Z said:
Im confused to how this collects dust? Am I just being stupid? The extractor part seems so far away from the chisel end so I cnt see it being very affective. Your going to make a mess any way with this kinda work regardless so I see no need in a extractor for this type of tool! BUT if its good at extracting more than 60% of the dust ill stand corrected any less I see it just being more hassle and added weight to a tool which can be heavy on the arms any way and having a hose pulling on you would annoy me.
JMB
jmbfestool
Member
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2009
- Messages
- 6,646
Michael_MA said:
I love that its MINT! ill be buying one just going to do some research on it see if their is anything else similar and compare make sure get the best available! With a Cordless hammer drill and a cordless dust collector dead handy for doing odd little holes in some ones house. I currently use the envelope method! So I use some low tack masking tape and stick a envelope just below the hole im drilling to collect the dust.
cheers JMB
R
Rob Z
Guest
Frank-Jan,
I found another picture that better shows how the Hilti attachment works. At one time, the Hilti US website didn't show this attachment very well, so I really didn't know what I was getting until it showed up at my house. I don't recall the cost, but I think it lists at less than $200.00.
It works fairly well (in some applications) on walls, and really well on floors. The main drawback with the wall demos is that the material that falls to the floor creates dust, so although the attachment is capturing a lot of the dust at the point of the bit, it won't stop large materials from falling and kicking up dust as they hit the floor. It helps to have a second person there aiming the tube from a shop vac at the stuff that's hitting the floor.
I found another picture that better shows how the Hilti attachment works. At one time, the Hilti US website didn't show this attachment very well, so I really didn't know what I was getting until it showed up at my house. I don't recall the cost, but I think it lists at less than $200.00.
It works fairly well (in some applications) on walls, and really well on floors. The main drawback with the wall demos is that the material that falls to the floor creates dust, so although the attachment is capturing a lot of the dust at the point of the bit, it won't stop large materials from falling and kicking up dust as they hit the floor. It helps to have a second person there aiming the tube from a shop vac at the stuff that's hitting the floor.
Rob, thanks for posting those pics.
We do a lot of remodelling work, and I do use dustcollection or watercooling on the grinders, and when coredrilling for electrical, but in our case I would guess most dust from working with the demo-hammers would come from shoveling up the rubble and sweeping. (We do are in a different situation where the interior walls tend to be brick and plaster, and the floors concrete and tile, so the amounts of debris would make it very unpracticall to try to vaccuum up all the dust) (We do put up temporary dust walls, so it won't spread to parts of the house we're not working on)
We do a lot of remodelling work, and I do use dustcollection or watercooling on the grinders, and when coredrilling for electrical, but in our case I would guess most dust from working with the demo-hammers would come from shoveling up the rubble and sweeping. (We do are in a different situation where the interior walls tend to be brick and plaster, and the floors concrete and tile, so the amounts of debris would make it very unpracticall to try to vaccuum up all the dust) (We do put up temporary dust walls, so it won't spread to parts of the house we're not working on)
Similar threads
