Hkc 55

WarnerConstCo. · Jun 2, 2015

Brice Burrell said:
WarnerConstCo. said:

If i cant get this i am buying the mafell.

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I have a feeling you may get one of these. Still, I think a corded version would serve you much better. I can't see a corded version in the near future in Europe, and who know how long it would take to make its way to the States if Festool decided to make it...

If power and run time is good, cordless should be fine, but there is something to be said about an actual corded tool as well.

bkharman · Jun 2, 2015

I was thinking of "importing" this puppy for a good pal who love my festool stuff but can't afford it.

I think the track might be the more difficult part.

Plus I want to use it when I need that type of tool!!

Cheers. Bryan.

Brice Burrell · Jun 2, 2015

WarnerConstCo. said:
If power and run time is good, cordless should be fine, but there is something to be said about an actual corded tool as well.

The issue I see is that it is one 18v battery. Imagine cutting 2xs for framing, how long is that battery going to last?

ScotF · Jun 3, 2015

Mafell has a cordless KSS400 and Wrightwoodwork has one - it has good run time, but is 36v. I have Mafell's bigger KSS80 and it is one awesome saw...can almost cut 4x material - just 1/32nd shy.

raph38 · Jun 3, 2015

Brice Burrell said:
The issue I see is that it is one 18v battery. Imagine cutting 2xs for framing, how long is that battery going to last?

the catalog says it takes 2 batteries at the same time so that you can use it at 18 or 36 v
and those are the same batteries as the new 18v drills

Nippychippy · Jun 3, 2015

This only uses one battery at a time what they have done with this saw is they have made the kerf on the blade smaller not sure of size but it's all down to battery life

WelshWood · Jun 3, 2015

Nippychippy said:
This only uses one battery at a time what they have done with this saw is they have made the kerf on the blade smaller not sure of size but it's all down to battery life

Cordless saws should always have a smaller kerf blade for this reason anyways, not just the Festool.

Have used the Hilti cordless circular saw to cut roofing before, I had 3 batteries on the go and never had to wait for at least one to be fully charged. Cordless saws these days are more than capable of cutting 2x? material.

Bonus of the Festool is that it works on a guide rail, so the accuracy would be just as good as a corded saw in theory.

~WW

wrightwoodwork · Jun 3, 2015

Since getting my cordless saw I have hardly touched the corded version of my saw. Depending on what I'm doing I can almost get a full day out of the one battery. The narrow kerf blades make a huge difference. I think does right in making it cordless as I know that in the uk thier can be a lack of power on sites also if up on a roof a trailing cable can be a hazard. My only reservation about it is only being 18v for the likes of rip cuts and compound cuts. Then the extra oomph of a 36v batteries might be desired. For cross cuts I can't see an issue with only being 18v. Last year on site their was a boy who had got a new ts55 and when I bought out the kss400 and was wondering how he could get it to work on cross cut track

demographic · Jun 3, 2015

WelshWood said:
I can see me buying this to do hip roofing.. The HKC55 and Cordless Carvex could see me do a roof in possibly half the time (yes, I genuinely think it will be that much quicker)

~WW

I'm not so sure, Its max depth of cut is 55 mm at full depth and 38mm at 50 degrees. Lot of the cuts on a hipped roof are on timbers that are about 45-50mm or thereabouts so it might not manage it that well.

Better for valley boards, fascias and soffits but not that much better than a normal cordless saw used in conjunction with a adjustable quick square to guide the base of the saw.
Damn expensive if you drop it.

Phil Beckley · Jun 3, 2015

.......and also in English from today

Nippychippy · Jun 3, 2015

Thanks Phil great tool.

neth27 · Jun 3, 2015

When are they getting shipped out? i ordered one a couple of weeks ago.

John...

Shane Holland · Jun 3, 2015

Great videos as usual, Phil. The resident FOG tool porn star. [poke]

Phil Beckley · Jun 3, 2015

neth27 said:
When are they getting shipped out? i ordered one a couple of weeks ago.

John...

Shipped earlier this week i believe - but check with the dealer for confirmation on arrival
rg
Phil

Phil Beckley · Jun 3, 2015

Shane Holland said:
Great videos as usual, Phil. The resident FOG tool porn star. [poke]

Thanks for that Shane... [embarassed]

jools · Jun 4, 2015

Just ordered mine. Couldn't decide on best size of rail to go for so ordered all three [big grin]. Can see this as a solution to all those times struggling with 4m plus roofing and flooring timbers, trimming battens and chipboard flooring. As [member=47193]WelshWood[/member] stated with this and the carvex hip roofs suddenly got a lot quicker. Time to break out Goss's ready reckoner or finally learn to use the buildcalc app
Regards
Jools

WarnerConstCo. · Jun 4, 2015

I want one now, going to order the red german one.

jools · Jun 4, 2015

At least it's available sooner than the Festool [member=3891]WarnerConstCo.[/member] Guy on the site next to mine was using KSS400 and it was slick. However it does have a cord and depth of cut is 49.9mm (1 15/16) which is just enough for framing although it maintains that depth of cut on the bevel and it's slightly heavier. Why Festool take so long to get stuff over the pond is beyond me. It must be very frustrating for you guys

mouppe · Jun 4, 2015

Phil, is there any advantage to the cordless TSC55 over the HKC?

Good youtube videos by the way

Phil Beckley · Jun 4, 2015

RL said:
Phil, is there any advantage to the cordless TSC55 over the HKC?

Good youtube videos by the way

Hi
Consideration needs to be given to the application the machine is used for.
The TSC has the same performance as a corded version and is best used on a supported surface for the division of board materials etc.
The HKC is aimed towards a diffrent sector - construction. So the main area is cutting to length, angles and light weight hence the 18v platform.
So from the above, two machines and two seperate areas. Using a TSC to cross cut 4x2 on the FS rail is a bit of a balancing act and this is where the HKC comes into its own really. Using the HKC to rip a sheet material down to size is not the main application area.
The T.S.C is the most used machine i have and the corded T.S.55 rarely comes out now.
Hope this helps and thanks for the comment on the video
rg
Phil

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