Hkc 55

After having an 18V lithium Hitachi circular saw that wouldn't cut your toe nails, I'll be waiting to try this one "hands on".

 
ReallY? I thought Hitachi were good.

I have an 18v Makita, using 8yr old 3,0Ah batts, it's fantastic. I also just recently sold my Makita 14,4v 136mm circ saw - I used it every day, totally abused it. I don't know about toe nails, it would cut my toes off along with the ends of my work boots!

The thing that concerns me about the HKC55, is that the TS55 is woefully underpowered. I'm working on the basis that most of the time it will be used as an HKC18  [big grin]... and at some point I'll get a powerful saw to replace the TS55.
 
There could be an interesting insight in Festool thinking in regard to the blade offset on the HKC. The track to blade edge could be made the same as this would be a great convenience to the customer (not having to change edge strips when going between saws). The blade onset could be made different which could allow Festool to seek more guide rails  (much less hassle to buy a new rail rather than replacing guide strips).

Since this is supposed to be more of a cross cut saw, Festool may not be so concerned about having the same guide rails be used for the HKC and other saws.

My math indicates that ripping a 3/4 in by 8 ft strip of plywood would be about the same amount of wood as cross cutting 8-9 2x6s. Of course different wood densities, blade teeth etc could make a big difference. It will be interesting to see how real world tests work out for ripping and cross cutting between various cordless saws.

The delay could be because Festool figured out why the TSC55 is eating batteries and now must change the HKC so it does not do the same. On the other hand, they may have been surprised by the demand for the HKC and what to have a bigger stock on hand before they start selling. This latter point does not make a lot of sense, but who knows.

 
Just found out that that they can't actually make the hkc fast enough to meet demand,Festool have been caught out with the popularity of this saw and there have been a lot of big orders put in around Europe. They factory can only make about 24 units a day that's the joys of it been made in Europe. I just hope that they aren't just chucking them out the door or this forum will be a pain when everybody gets there's [big grin] [big grin]
 
FFX have not received stock as of today. Been told latter end of this week/ early next week. This is worse than waiting for Christmas  [sad]
 
I got a message from my dealer about the hkc when i ask him about the delay!

We can now announce that the battery circular saw HKC 55 has started to be delivered . Delivery takes place chronologically after the order date and you who have pre-ordered HKC 55 and supplies will therefore get your deliveries in the near future . If you have not pre-ordered - place your order today! We see great interest from our customers and hope and believe that this product can be a new success story for Festool and for you as a reseller !

i dont know if this is for the europe or only skandinavia?
 
I have just had the FSK track and parallel guide  delivered today, not much use if i don't have the saw... [mad]

john..
 
aas said:
ReallY? I thought Hitachi were good.

I have an 18v Makita, using 8yr old 3,0Ah batts, it's fantastic. I also just recently sold my Makita 14,4v 136mm circ saw - I used it every day, totally abused it. I don't know about toe nails, it would cut my toes off along with the ends of my work boots!

The thing that concerns me about the HKC55, is that the TS55 is woefully underpowered. I'm working on the basis that most of the time it will be used as an HKC18  [big grin]... and at some point I'll get a powerful saw to replace the TS55.

Some Hitachi tools are and were good ... there's just a few lemons in the range ... their 18V circular saw is one of them. I've still got 2 of their old circular saws ~20 years and their solid and reliable - worth of good quality blades!
 
Obviously I've not seen the festool version but surely the left hand side of the blade that touches the splinter guard is the same distance to the grooves on the rails be it the hkc or the TS saws. Fair enough the right hand side being different as different kerf width. Just a thought
 
wrightwoodwork said:
Obviously I've not seen the festool version but surely the left hand side of the blade that touches the splinter guard is the same distance to the grooves on the rails be it the hkc or the TS saws. Fair enough the right hand side being different as different kerf width. Just a thought

I'd like to get the same one as you, but too much for the amount I think I'll be using it.

I switched my order from one of the French dealers I use to FFX as all the French dealers were quoting August delivery. I have already received the notification email to say my HKC has shipped and I have tracking info... so it looks like for the UK buyers, if theirs have also shipped today, then they might be arriving tomorrow!
 
The mafell is a lot of money. Unless you're going to be using it everyday I wouldnt recommended it. The reason I have it is after 2 years at the time of using the corded kss400 then going to sites with no power and knowing how useful the whole concept is, to be without to me is now a no no. Is would recommend everybody to try one of them be it the mafell or the festool version either way I don't think you can go wrong
 
Has anybody tried cross cutting a 2400x600 sheet of 18/22mm chipboard flooring with the 670mm rail, is the rail too short to do this?

Rich
 
richh666 said:
Has anybody tried cross cutting a 2400x600 sheet of 18/22mm chipboard flooring with the 670mm rail, is the rail too short to do this?

Rich

With the HKC, the 'rail length' quoted is the cutting length, NOT the overall length. So the 670mm rail will cut 670mm. So no, the rail isn't too short, it will crosscut a 610mm chipboard floorboard.
 
Festool web site says: cutting length 670 mm, so it should work fine.
This rail is made for cutting half size sheets.
The rail itself must be about 300-400 mm longer.
 
I haven't tried it but 670 means it will cut 670 in 50mm thick material so 600 wide chipboard will be no problem. You'd probably get  closer to 700 width in 20mm board with the saw at full depth.
 
Cheers guys! I hadn't checked the website, or realised that the 250,420,670 was the cutting length and not the overall length!

Thanks again!
 
Also remember that thinner material like 22mm you can cut more the the 670 maybe 740 I guess with the blade at full depth.
 
richh666 said:
Has anybody tried cross cutting a 2400x600 sheet of 18/22mm chipboard flooring with the 670mm rail, is the rail too short to do this?

Rich

You would only get reliable square cuts from the groove side of the board due to the tongues being a bit bumpy and the rail only engaging on the pin
 
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