Hose Length for Sheet Goods

72anthony

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I am considering one of the cleaning kits with the 3.5m (11.5') hose. Is this hose length convenient for using a TS 55 on full size sheet goods?

I'm sure it will work, but I don't want to have to ensure that the extractor is positioned exactly to keep from running out of hose. I haven't purchased the TS 55 yet, so I don't have any idea.

I work in a two car garage, so portability/ease of transport isn't that important.

Thanks,
Anthony
 
Anthony,

The Universal Cleaning Set (cat 497 702); the Tradesperson/Installer Cleaning Set (Cat 497 700) ; and the Workshop Cleaning Set (cat 497 701) all include the 36mm AS x 3.5m (11.5') hose.

Way back when I had only owned my first TS55 a single day, I went back to my favorite dealer on a Saturday because that was when a bunch of experienced woodworkers hung out, exchanged ideas and ate snacks.

A fellow who had been using the predecessor to the TS55 made two suggestions: buy the accessory side plate and always use a 36mm AS hose. In addition to collecting dust more effectively, his experience was that the slightly stiffer 36mm hose hangs up less often on the rails than does the more flexible 27mm hose which comes with the dust extractors and is needed with sanders and a few other Festools. This fellow also said that for breaking down 4 x 8' sheets, the 5.0m x 36mm AS hose was more efficient, while still providing great dust collection.

My dealer had all of those sets good in stock. I decided on the Tradesperson set (cat 497 700) because I needed to clean the carpet in the workrooms in my condo. I added the Plastic Turbo Suction Brush (cat 450 644) for really great carpet cleaning. My dealer was generous to swap the 36mm AS x 5m hose (cat 452 884) for the 3.5m hose in the kit, charging me only the difference. Sort of like paying the difference to get a longer or Holy guide rail with a saw.

That was January 2006, before the Boom Arm was available in the USA. I am sure I saved a lot of time by using the 5m hose. With a boom arm I use the 3.5m x 36mm AS hose, because the boom needs to be fairly accurately positioned and the longer hose defeats the benefit of the boom arm.

Speaking of 36mm AS hose, I buy the 36mm AS x 7m hose so I can cut the shorter hoses I use with my Kapex without waste. I find the ideal length length for a Kapex hose is 2.3m which is 1/3rd of the 7m hose. 2.5m,which is 1/2 a 5m hose is in my opinion too long.

 
72anthony said:
I'm sure it will work, but I don't want to have to ensure that the extractor is positioned exactly to keep from running out of hose. I haven't purchased the TS 55 yet, so I don't have any idea.

Positioning is more important than you can guess. The ridges on the outside of the hose tend to catch on things, expecially 90° corners of wood. So, you either have to position it above your cutting surface so it never catches (boom arm for example) or perhaps buy some gorilla sleeve to put over the hose which gives it a smooth surface permitting it to slide over stuff much more easily.
 
72anthony said:
but I don't want to have to ensure that the extractor is positioned exactly to keep from running out of hose.

For lots of people it is second nature to ensure the vac is positioned correctly, and not much of a bother. But if the idea does bother you, you're better off buying the 5 meter hose right away.

If you plan to cut full size panels on a regular basis, the boom arm is a very handy accessory.
 
There's also using a sock over the hose as an added option.  I've done that with both my 27mm and 36mm hoses, and alleviated the hang up issue of the ridges ripple catching as they apt to do being pulled over an edge.  I'd show you a pic of this hose sock, but on my phone and can't do so right now.  The sock is a braided plastic of sorts used in cabling normally to harness a mess of wires.
 
I often put the hose over my shoulder. Seems to work fine. If I ever worked in one place I might get a boom.

A 36mm with a plugit would be cool though.
 
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